Autistic Teenager Killed Himself

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Just looked it up again and Wikipedia says: "Phobias, depression and other psychopathological disorders have often been described along with ASD but this has not been assessed systematically."

It does make sense though.

Don't believe everything Wikipedia tells you.

Well if you can provide some evidence for it I'd be interested. I'm genuinely curious, I'm not trying to challenge anyone.

I don't understand how weighing the morality of the situation makes it impervious to improvement. Am I misunderstanding the point you were making? It seems like you're saying any attempts to change society for the better are futile, because of the actions of some bad seeds. I don't see being victimized as weakness, but those who initiate attacks on others are weak and lash out to compensate. It can be a lack of self respect fueling both sides of the coin.

Its a problem because if it stays moralized it typically never leaves the emotional or self-judgement sphere. When a person realizes they were mean to a sibling, neighbor, cousin, or someone they went to school with, apologize to them, and write it off in their own head that they had a character flaw - not only did they never actually learned what happened or why, they just flushed an invaluable lesson on how to remedy the problem down the drain with that thinking.

SSRIs cause more serotonin to be available in the blood stream that inhibit over-sensitivity to triggers (getting punished., noise etc) as well as avoidance motivation, thus reducing anxiety in an autistic person and making them feel more comfortable, particularly in a new environment. The side effects that lead to suicide relate to comorbid mental health conditions that are exacerbated with more serotonin.

Well that's not what it did to me...it made me more anxious, very uncomfortable and quite paranoid and rather psychotic...SSRIs do not always help depression or anxiety and can apparently make it worse in some cases.

Well, obviously I don't think bullies deserve to go to hell. I was speaking emotionally and not literally. I was turning the argument around on it's head by saying something a bully would say, not because I genuinely believe that but because bullies (actually abusers are what I am really talking about) live in a different world and cannot be reasoned with.

I'm talking about chronic bullies/abusers who have no remorse - not your typical school-age children who aren't fully mature and may feel remorse for their actions.

Bullying is a big problem in school and the reason it is such a big problem is that adults turn a blind eye to it.

I see where you were coming from now. I'll never watch My Name is Earl the same way again..

Well, what I meant when I said that hell makes no sense, I mean it from the standpoint that no one really can have culpability for who they are to that extent. Just because the world makes monsters doesn't mean that we don't still have to punish, redirect, or in worst case throw them in jail - even give them the chair, just that eternal accountability for identity - something inherently forced on us - makes little or no sense.

True, but the evidence points to comorbid conditions exacerbated by the SSRIs not necessarily the autism per say. Overall the effect of serotonin on the brain and CNS is still work in progress.

I am from the UK. I know how young these students can be and it doesn't excuse their behavior. At higher education, you are expected to act like an adult because that is what higher education is for - adults. I studied a HND and I hated how many of the students were immature and didn't take their education seriously.

To Sweetleaf: You don't have to tell me that calling a suicidal person a 'dumbass' isn't helpful. Trust me, I've been there. I'm not calling people stupid for being depressed. I'm saying that depression makes you do stupid things. Things that I look back on and go 'WHAT WAS I THINKING?!".

But looking back, my harsh sense of humor may help me but I suppose it's not appropriate for others. So I apologize for that.

To Pezar: actually, West Suffolk College is more like what americans would call a community college. They offer apprenticeships, undergraduate courses, postgraduate courses, and so on. Here's a list of the levels of study that they offer: http://www.westsuffolkcollege.ac.uk/cou ... evels.aspx

This boy was 18, so he was probably studying for higher education (or at least re-sitting his GCSE's). Either way, these were adults, not children, who were doing this.

Asp_Z, the boy had a history of depression and bullying. He received no psychiatric support even though he had attempted suicide before. His mother tried to get them to pay attention but they didn't take his situation seriously. The bullies obvious exacerbated it, but ultimately it was the negligence of his doctors for not doing something sooner. Plus, I suspect that West Suffolk College could have done more to avoid this as well (perhaps by offering more support or kicking the bullies out). I suspect that his mother would have also made sure that the college was well aware of the situation.

The school were negligent and let the bullies run wild. The school administrators ought to have jail sentences. That should make it clear where the responsibility is.

All school's will claim they are not responsible for the conduct of individual students, the responsibility needs to be tied with the school culture in relation to stamping out bullying. Private schools are notorious for doing the opposite.

Makes you wonder who decides the policy that makes school culture..

As for the school administrators, they will have to be held accountable whether they like it or not. It's a control system gone haywire because the persons that actually makes the decisions isn't affected by their consequences.

Mother Mercy. So please explain to me why isn't bullying illegal yet?? Oh right... nowdays children bring guns to school and spit on their teachers. You know many years ago, it was the opposite: children where very submissive ( yes there was bullying but still less violence) and teachers could do more.

This just makes me want to punch something or someone. God the injustice....