Autism cure close to being found?

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30 Apr 2012, 1:14 pm

AnonymousAspy wrote:

Animal testing is a vital part of science, for the time being, Its likely that if ya ever wore any non selfmade clothes, used makeup, had to take medicine for anything or even ate/drunk something not selfmade you took advantage of that.

Hell if there was no animal testing we would not know what was poisonous/dangerous for our health till possibly a large chunk of the population got exposed to something with possibly disastrous consequences. The ammounts of deaths both animal and human would be far higher besides the reason i mentioned above as noone would be willing to commit possible murder to make medicines as they would not be able to test it.

That said, the technology to abolish animal testing is slowly catching up but it is still nowhere near ready to completly to get rid of it

Think of how much MORE we could learn about human health if we tested on actual HUMANS, consent or no! /sarcasm

Actually, a number of scientific bodies consider animal-testing to be unethical and unscientific, and that's been the case for several decades.
We have human tissue samples, computer models, and a variety of more accurate means of testing.
Were that not the case, would it ethically justify using sentient beings as means to human ends?
I'm not seeing how.

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30 Apr 2012, 1:16 pm

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too add, i presume you are a vegan and prolife looking at your last point seeing as you considering killing of animals murder.

Cute tu quo que you've got there.

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30 Apr 2012, 1:59 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

Yes, I now recall that bit of information. And as I had responded previously, Shakespeare blatantly stole ideas from other play writes, and produced works that have lasted the centuries.
Long live Stan Lee, the Shakespeare of the modern age! :lol:

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That very well may be why I'm an aspiring writer depending on my wife just to survive. :lol:

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30 Apr 2012, 2:06 pm

I have never agreed about testing things on animals I am not a vegan but I am a huge animal lover. Testing things on animals is wrong to me.

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30 Apr 2012, 3:46 pm

i dont really care,some people actually want to be cured.ranting wont help,it wont change anything

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30 Apr 2012, 5:06 pm

Cornflake wrote:

Hmm - if this thread is going to continue drifting into the moral arguments of animal testing instead of sticking to the topic title I might have to consider moving it to PPR.

Well, I'm done. AnonymousAspy, if you want an answer to your question, I will PM it to you. I put the response in my WP blog, but it came out as one giant paragraph.

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01 May 2012, 10:05 pm

shrox wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

-Bill, otherwise know as Kraichgauer

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No, geniuses starve in the streets. Arts bewail. :3
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01 May 2012, 10:11 pm

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the prospect of a cure worries me.. not just because I don't deem autism to be a disease.. but because it will be misused, it may not be mandatory but what about people who are underage, their parents could sign them up with the cure with out their connect the same wound be true of adults with LFA..

Exactly.

Also, we have no idea if it would lower intellectual abilities or not--that seems important to me. [Especially because apparently some people who are nonverbal are also secret savants who would be successful if they could communicate; in that case therapy is a better option.]

And then there are people more like me and my friends; I think at least a few of our parents are scummy enough to do that despite our numerous assertions that we like ourselves, autism and all.

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01 May 2012, 10:15 pm

A cure for autism just can't be found when you have no clue what creates it.

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01 May 2012, 10:22 pm

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A cure for autism just can't be found when you have no clue what creates it.

They found a treatment for Fragile X I guess.

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01 May 2012, 10:25 pm

LennytheWicked wrote:

Joker wrote:

A cure for autism just can't be found when you have no clue what creates it.

They found a treatment for Fragile X I guess.

True but if is such a hard feild of study I mean their could be so many factors and not just one that created the gene.

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02 May 2012, 9:57 am

The arguement of animal testing not withstanding.....

I've been researching autism for a while now. One of the most interesting things to me as an autistic, is the system of socialisation and the belief that "everyone should be just like me" reguardless if it comes from a black rap artist from the bad part of town, to the republican nominie. The reality of it is that people are more socially sound around things they are familure with. Thats why people tend to listen to shows and read books that reinforce their views instead of learning new ones.

In all my research i noticed alot of abilities that the typical autistic has. During my research i showed some friends of mine how i go about solving problems and how i think. Suprisingly many of them where envious. I think the attempt to find a cure robs humanity of learning from us and us learning from them. Of course there are many things a neuro-typical can do that i can't do yet. These are things i want to learn from them. On the same tolken, there are many things that neuro-typicals can't do that they can learn from us. I think as a group, we need to show these strengths and protect them. I use to think rainman was an insult to autistic's because it only showed one way of how we can be. Yet i eventually realized that most people would give up their arm to be able to pull off what he did in the casino. Why can't that be the face of autism? Do you really want to cure that?

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02 May 2012, 10:33 am

ShadeX wrote:

I use to think rainman was an insult to autistic's because it only showed one way of how we can be. Yet i eventually realized that most people would give up their arm to be able to pull off what he did in the casino. Why can't that be the face of autism? Do you really want to cure that?

Well thing is.....I think there should not be a fully positive face of autism or fully negative. There are downsides, there are good things both should be acknowledged. I mean I can see not wanting autism always portrayed in a totally negative light.....but to leave the bad out just to make the face of autism a bit more pleasent kind of ignores people struggles.

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05 May 2012, 10:33 am

Coming up with a medication that helps some of the symptoms could be beneficial to many. The problem that I see is that quite often there are so many bad side effects from these "cures" that its worse than what they are trying to fix. Also way too often, they are given to children and this is not right. My son has Aspergers and I would never give him any kind of medication for it. I like who he is and I don't want to change him. Many people are now saying that antipsychotic medications are very helpful in treating symptoms of aspergers, but they don't ever bother to look at the potential side effects.

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05 May 2012, 1:14 pm

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I never heard of the use of anti-psychotics for Aspies. That sounds scary.

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05 May 2012, 2:09 pm

If this cure has worked for anywhere other than America for 1,000 people. I would take the cure in a syringe and have it placed in my bottom.

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