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16 Mar 2007, 11:05 am

Here's an interesting article that was on MSN today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17632043/?GT1=9145

Various theories for the warm temps are laid out, and they are not treated as mutually exclusive theories.



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16 Mar 2007, 4:26 pm

Global Warming is utter rubbish ! !!

Mister Scrooge said so, and that settles it ! !!


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16 Mar 2007, 4:31 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Global Warming is utter rubbish ! !!

Mister Scrooge said so, and that settles it ! !!


You're saying you don't think for yourself, then?



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16 Mar 2007, 4:40 pm

I think as Mister Scrooge tells me ! !

He's a stern one, he is ! ! (Part Irish, very loud, very opinionated)


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18 Mar 2007, 7:09 pm

I say dash all that any "expert" (experts generally being persons on the telley) say. What do you think, and upon what do you base those thoughts.

Metrology, limits of mathematical accuracy, stability modes, cosmology. . . What do you personally know of these studies? 'Cause if it ain't much, then you lack the qualifications to make judgement on the issue of global warming.

Gawd, I do recall my innocent days of youth. Days when I was slod a bill of such goods. Didja know that electric fields from my electric blankie killed me? Did, honest. As did Marachino cherries.


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19 Mar 2007, 1:58 pm

Please, nutbag, first read the other replies before making up your mind that we're basing our arguments just on tele and internet (well certainly there are a few, isn't it?)



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19 Mar 2007, 2:01 pm

Pug wrote:
Please, nutbag, first read the other replies before making up your mind that we're basing our arguments just on tele and internet (well certainly there are a few, isn't it?)


And then there are those who only think what others tell them (Prof).



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19 Mar 2007, 8:55 pm

Didja know Mars is warming too? It is, and my consumption of CO2 emitting energy, as a factor of causality, there is pretty small.


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19 Mar 2007, 9:54 pm

Nutbag - that MSN article that I posted the link to actually said that the whole solar system is warming - not just Mars (and, of course, Earth). I thought that was pretty interesting. It just goes to show that Global Warming (to the extent that it exists) is a very complex problem. Unfortunately, we can't exactly test the various competing hypotheses about the recent warm spells in a laboratory.



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20 Mar 2007, 9:39 am

janicka wrote:

And then there are those who only think what others tell them (Prof).


THAT pretty much describes me ! !!


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20 Mar 2007, 9:59 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
janicka wrote:

And then there are those who only think what others tell them (Prof).


THAT pretty much describes me ! !!


I wouldn't have thought that about you :wink:



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20 Mar 2007, 10:02 am

janicka wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
janicka wrote:

And then there are those who only think what others tell them (Prof).


THAT pretty much describes me ! !!


I wouldn't have thought that about you :wink:


Oh yes, just a good little soldier who does as told, and all that ...
"You'll think wot we tells ya to think ! !"
"Yessir!! !"

That's me all over.


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20 Mar 2007, 12:05 pm

800 years ago ice covered the north coast of Scotland. Then a warming started. For three hundred years the climate was wetter, ergot grew on the rye, they ate it, and danced from village to village till they fell dead. Global Woodstock. The Crusades were a way to deal with declining crop production, early entery into heaven.

A thawing of their wastes lead to more rats, fleas, and three waves of Black Death. This was very good for the economy.

As the year dried out at the end of growing seasons, much more food came from cultivated land, and as all women were barefoot, pregnant, and chained to a campfire, with food, the natural order of half their children dying failed, the population shot up, and the climate stayed stable in a good growing cycle for hundreds of years.

Religion was at the forefront of boundless breeding, it was a duty to God. Ireland alone tried to match the population of earth. People became the main export, they sought peaceful people in new lands, killed them and took the land, then bred more on their graves. Their Trinity of endless population growth, genocide, and theft, spread, those who lived in a balance with nature wear called Animists, and killed for it.

800 years later co2 levels shot up because so much of the crops were fermented for beer and wiskey, the Sacred drugs of the breeder religion. The only way the belief system could be maintained, 12 children, killing others, stealing their land, for a place to send them, was staying drunk.

Science is a study of facts. Interperting facts to fit your beliefs is called Religion.



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20 Mar 2007, 12:25 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Oh yes, just a good little soldier who does as told, and all that ...
"You'll think wot we tells ya to think ! !"
"Yessir!! !"

That's me all over.


Well, you're no fun!



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20 Mar 2007, 12:29 pm

janicka wrote:

Well, you're no fun!


Ah well, I can't be everything to everbody, you know ...


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20 Mar 2007, 2:58 pm

However, I do believe in Fort's Prinicple.*

* Fort's principle goes something like this: People with a psychological need to believe in marvels are no more prejudiced and gullible than people with a psychological need not to believe in marvels.


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