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16 Aug 2017, 1:11 pm

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the park on Saturday, and that you establish their behavior by what most active participant did more so than what one particularly well-placed psychopath on one side or the other was able to bring together.


This doesn't make any sense, please calrify.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:11 pm

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Anti-Nazi automatically equates religious nut-job.

Thanks for proving my point.

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16 Aug 2017, 1:13 pm

rick sanchez wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
the park on Saturday, and that you establish their behavior by what most active participant did more so than what one particularly well-placed psychopath on one side or the other was able to bring together.


This doesn't make any sense, please calrify.

Ten people, twenty people, did not get into their cars and crash into protesters of other pedestrians, just like the BLM event in Texas saw ONE cop-killer, not ten or fifteen BLM members open fire on police.

Sweetleaf was saying that the alt-right side was far more violent on average than Antifa on Saturday because of James Fields. That doesn't work for me. If that's not what she meant she needs to phrase her ideas, or arguments, more clearly.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:14 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Anti-Nazi automatically equates religious nut-job.

Thanks for proving my point.

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why are you bringing religion and marijuana use into this? Even if it is true, it doesn't make your argument any less stupid.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:15 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
the park on Saturday, and that you establish their behavior by what most active participant did more so than what one particularly well-placed psychopath on one side or the other was able to bring together.


This doesn't make any sense, please calrify.

Ten people, twenty people, did not get into their cars and crash into protesters of other pedestrians, just like the BLM event in Texas saw ONE cop-killer, not ten or fifteen BLM members open fire on police.

Sweetleaf was saying that the alt-right side was far more violent on average than Antifa on Saturday because of James Fields. That doesn't work for me. If that's not what she meant she needs to phrase her ideas more clearly.


are you being intentionally stupid? there is along well documented history of conservative violence and a very limited history of liberal violence.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:16 pm

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Well do you have any videos of the counter side to the white supremacists, plowing into a group of unarmed protestors?

One person doesn't establish the general demeanor of the group. If we're going in that direction BLM, after what happened in Texas, are violent cop-killers as a matter of course.

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I mean if you have a link to anything like that I'd like to see it. Also I have seen videos, for instance there was a lovely one of white supremacists brandishing torches, giving the nazi salute and saying 'heil Trump'. I also saw the one with the protesters tearing down a confederate statue. But yes if you have videos to prove that the violence from the antifa escalated to car ramming or other deadly attacks do post a link.

If you Youtube 'Antifa' you'll get overdosed. Pages and pages of bricks, tasers, bats, flags, etc. etc...

As far as I know the medical casualties from teargas and bricks, split heads, etc.. were mostly on the alt-right side in this case if, for no other reason, they were the party with the permit, as in the past were probably searched and had their weapons confiscated, and whether or not they could have created just as much mayhem and casualty on a broader than one-off level isn't necessarily disproven, they just didn't have the mace, bricks, batons, or whatever else to do the same thing.

That's part of what even bothers me more. If you're going to let a throng of armed people wait outside an enclosed area, you know this because you patted them down on their way in, to meet a group of unarmed people you're even making matters worse.

I am not a full on supporter of antifa, as far as I know they do get a bit carried away, so I don't doubt there are videos of them doing just that. But I am talking about the specific clash where the white supremacist killed someone, was anyone killed by antifa/BLM protestors? Also neo-nazis and white supremacists cheered the death of the victim and even mocked her its not like he did that and they spoke out about how it was too far, they supported it. I am sure the perpetrator will get plenty of fan mail from neo-nazi trash in prison. And sure maybe not everyone protesting the statue coming down was a neo-nazi or racist, but they still were standing side by side with them knowingly and certainly not challenging it.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:17 pm

rick sanchez wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Anti-Nazi automatically equates religious nut-job.

Thanks for proving my point.

Go smoke another bowl.



why are you bringing religion and marijuana use into this? Even if it is true, it doesn't make your argument any less stupid.


I think techstepgenr8tion, should go smoke a bowl... :lol:


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16 Aug 2017, 1:18 pm

rick sanchez wrote:
why are you bringing religion and marijuana use into this? Even if it is true, it doesn't make your argument any less stupid.

This is going downhill fast (yes yes yes... all my fault I know, I'm defending nazis after all :roll: :wtg: )

This was completely and entirely inappropriate, and he was continuing to pursue it:

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It's a weird attempt to bring legitimacy to Nazi ideology by making the fictional claim that anybody who opposes marching in support of ethnic cleansing is a degenerate that is not worthy of life and deserves to be sent to the gas chambers. He's just as guilty of making blanket statements as everybody else is. What a hypocrite.


There's no rational response to this sort of thing other than detailing its irrationality.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:18 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Anti-Nazi automatically equates religious nut-job.

Thanks for proving my point.

Go smoke another bowl.


Even if the left was getting into fistfights, they had every right to. You cannot claim to be an American and be perfectly alright with Nazis marching on our streets, shouting Nazi salutes. Those people who were fighting Nazis?
They were fighting for our right to still be breathing. Is that really so f*****g difficult for you to understand? This is not a partisan issue anymore. This is not about left versus right. This is about people who have morals versus people who are for ethnic cleansing.

The fact that you are willing to speak against people who are fighting just so you will not get sent to the gas chambers says a lot about what a f*****g sellout you are. You should be thanking them instead of speaking ill of their intentions.

What part of "Nazis are the worst of the worst" is so f*****g hard for people to understand here? Is sticking it to the left really more important than not being exterminated for being autistic?



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16 Aug 2017, 1:21 pm

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Even if the left was getting into fistfights, they had every right to. You cannot claim to be an American and be perfectly alright with Nazis marching on our streets, shouting Nazi salutes. Those people who were fighting Nazis?
They were fighting for our right to still be breathing. Is that really so f*****g difficult for you to understand? This is not a partisan issue anymore. This is not about left versus right. This is about people who have morals versus people who are for ethnic cleansing.

The fact that you are willing to speak against people who are fighting just so you will not get sent to the gas chambers says a lot about what a f*****g sellout you are. You should be thanking them instead of speaking ill of their intentions.

What part of "Nazis are the worst of the worst" is so f*****g hard for people to understand here? Is sticking it to the left really more important than not being exterminated for being autistic?


Sounds great. Lets all go out in the streets then with baseball bats, beat the fluids out of people we disagree with, and have martial law declared! It'll be a blast!


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16 Aug 2017, 1:23 pm

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KagamineLen wrote:
Even if the left was getting into fistfights, they had every right to. You cannot claim to be an American and be perfectly alright with Nazis marching on our streets, shouting Nazi salutes. Those people who were fighting Nazis?
They were fighting for our right to still be breathing. Is that really so f*****g difficult for you to understand? This is not a partisan issue anymore. This is not about left versus right. This is about people who have morals versus people who are for ethnic cleansing.

The fact that you are willing to speak against people who are fighting just so you will not get sent to the gas chambers says a lot about what a f*****g sellout you are. You should be thanking them instead of speaking ill of their intentions.

What part of "Nazis are the worst of the worst" is so f*****g hard for people to understand here? Is sticking it to the left really more important than not being exterminated for being autistic?


Sounds great. Lets all go out in the streets then with baseball bats, beat the fluids out of people we disagree with, and have martial law declared! It'll be a blast!


Pretty sure this is what has been happening.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:24 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Even if the left was getting into fistfights, they had every right to. You cannot claim to be an American and be perfectly alright with Nazis marching on our streets, shouting Nazi salutes. Those people who were fighting Nazis?
They were fighting for our right to still be breathing. Is that really so f*****g difficult for you to understand? This is not a partisan issue anymore. This is not about left versus right. This is about people who have morals versus people who are for ethnic cleansing.

The fact that you are willing to speak against people who are fighting just so you will not get sent to the gas chambers says a lot about what a f*****g sellout you are. You should be thanking them instead of speaking ill of their intentions.

What part of "Nazis are the worst of the worst" is so f*****g hard for people to understand here? Is sticking it to the left really more important than not being exterminated for being autistic?


Sounds great. Lets all go out in the streets then with baseball bats, beat the fluids out of people we disagree with, and have martial law declared! It'll be a blast!


You don't get to claim to be in support of American values and civil rights in one breath, and then turn around and claim Nazis have a place in America in the next breath. It does not work like that. We already had a war over this. Many people died fighting the Nazis just so you can have the right to be a sellout here. Show some f*****g gratitude to the people who are still fighting to make sure you get the chance to defend the rights of the people who would love to see you die a horrible death.



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16 Aug 2017, 1:26 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
rick sanchez wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
the park on Saturday, and that you establish their behavior by what most active participant did more so than what one particularly well-placed psychopath on one side or the other was able to bring together.


This doesn't make any sense, please calrify.

Ten people, twenty people, did not get into their cars and crash into protesters of other pedestrians, just like the BLM event in Texas saw ONE cop-killer, not ten or fifteen BLM members open fire on police.

Sweetleaf was saying that the alt-right side was far more violent on average than Antifa on Saturday because of James Fields. That doesn't work for me. If that's not what she meant she needs to phrase her ideas, or arguments, more clearly.


That is not what I am saying, I am saying in this particular clash...the only deadly violence was committed by a white supremacist, I am not sure why this is hard to understand. Also that I think it is a little disturbing how so many people are willing to twist it around into being 'the lefts' fault...They guy was an alt-righter going to an alt right rally and killed someone probably influenced more by alt right and white supremacist rhetoric. White supremacists are to blame for that attack, not liberals.

But yes to reiterate I am talking specifically about this incident. If more rallies are planned I am sure we will get to see which side commits worse violence, in regards to white nationalist rallies and counter protests.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:27 pm

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Pretty sure this is what has been happening.

To say something like that really suggests that you have a fantasy-bubble image of what happens when a democracy goes totalitarian.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:30 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
KagamineLen wrote:
Even if the left was getting into fistfights, they had every right to. You cannot claim to be an American and be perfectly alright with Nazis marching on our streets, shouting Nazi salutes. Those people who were fighting Nazis?
They were fighting for our right to still be breathing. Is that really so f*****g difficult for you to understand? This is not a partisan issue anymore. This is not about left versus right. This is about people who have morals versus people who are for ethnic cleansing.

The fact that you are willing to speak against people who are fighting just so you will not get sent to the gas chambers says a lot about what a f*****g sellout you are. You should be thanking them instead of speaking ill of their intentions.

What part of "Nazis are the worst of the worst" is so f*****g hard for people to understand here? Is sticking it to the left really more important than not being exterminated for being autistic?


Sounds great. Lets all go out in the streets then with baseball bats, beat the fluids out of people we disagree with, and have martial law declared! It'll be a blast!


Considering the neo-nazis and white supremacists cheered the car ramming attack, I don't see why you assume they'd be the ones being disproportionately attacked rather than the ones doing the attacking.


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16 Aug 2017, 1:31 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Pretty sure this is what has been happening.

To say something like that really suggests that you have a fantasy-bubble image of what happens when a democracy goes totalitarian.



Or that you do...


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