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16 Mar 2021, 7:14 am

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a tubby orange haired POTUS

Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa, Potus


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16 Mar 2021, 8:10 am

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I recall a tubby orange haired POTUS ridiculed and demeaned a dead soldier's family and made fun of a war hero calling him a loser and cowardly avoided the military draft using his father's influence. Yet the same "deplorable" enjoyed absolute support from war veterans in the US.

So no surprises that similar shenanigans don't happen in the UK.


From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)

Donald Trump Criticizes Muslim Family of Slain U.S. Soldier, Drawing Ire

Fact check: Trump says he never called John McCain a ‘loser.’ He definitely did.

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.


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16 Mar 2021, 10:50 am

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From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


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16 Mar 2021, 1:04 pm

Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.



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16 Mar 2021, 1:14 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.


Maybe I'm no good at using Google, but can you link this retraction?

Their correction is easy to find but it doesn't amount to a retraction no matter how badly far-right media attempts to spin in that way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html



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16 Mar 2021, 1:26 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.


Maybe I'm no good at using Google, but can you link this retraction?

Their correction is easy to find but it doesn't amount to a retraction no matter how badly far-right media attempts to spin in that way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


When you change the story and it means something totally different versus what you said it's called a retraction. Thanks for helping make the point and providing the link.



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16 Mar 2021, 1:40 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.


Maybe I'm no good at using Google, but can you link this retraction?

Their correction is easy to find but it doesn't amount to a retraction no matter how badly far-right media attempts to spin in that way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


When you change the story and it means something totally different versus what you said it's called a retraction. Thanks for helping make the point and providing the link.


That's not what occurred but thanks for trying. The general point of the story wasn't changed, that's why it's called a correction and not called retraction.

Thanks for demonstrating the level of honesty expected.



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16 Mar 2021, 1:43 pm

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When you change the story and it means something totally different versus what you said it's called a retraction. Thanks for helping make the point and providing the link.
One quote was corrected:
Washington Post wrote:
The Washington Post reported on the substance of Trump’s Dec. 23 call in January, describing him saying that Watson should “find the fraud” and that she would be a “national hero,” based on an account from Jordan Fuchs, the deputy secretary of state, whom Watson briefed on his comments.

In fact, he did not use those precise words.

Rather, Trump urged the investigator to scrutinize Fulton County, where she would find “dishonesty,” he said.
Meanwhile, the call to Raffensperger still stands and as that's a real-time audio recording it's much more difficult to spin. In it and backed by no evidence whatever, Trump desperately pleads "What I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state.". Still obsessively pushing the Big Lie.

But whatever - have fun with the semantics games while the rest of us watch the Great Orange Blimp crash and burn.


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16 Mar 2021, 1:52 pm

 

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I wonder how a criminal profiler would categorize the "typical" Trump supporter ... ?



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16 Mar 2021, 3:00 pm

'Learn to read': GOP’s Madison Cawthorn brutally mocked for claiming bombshell Trump report was 'retracted'

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The Washington Post recently added a correction to a report that featured a detailed look how former President Trump "urged Georgia's lead elections investigator to identify wrongdoing in the state's vote in a December phone call, saying the official would be praised for doing so."

The report, at the time of its publication, was based on an anonymous source who had been briefed about the call.

A phone recording was later released by Georgia's secretary of state, showing that the Post had misquoted a few of Trump's comments on the call. In particular, Trump never said the phrase "find the fraud."

In a tweet this Monday, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) jumped on the correction, incorrectly calling it a "retraction."


Apparently this dishonest spin isn't just limited to here.



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16 Mar 2021, 3:09 pm

Cancel culture isn't real.

The language which it uses is too broad to define anyone thing.

And it's built on way too much sentiment.

Nobody in my circle - older family members included - had much time for Piers. He's always been a bigoted bighead.


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16 Mar 2021, 4:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
'Learn to read': GOP’s Madison Cawthorn brutally mocked for claiming bombshell Trump report was 'retracted'

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The Washington Post recently added a correction to a report that featured a detailed look how former President Trump "urged Georgia's lead elections investigator to identify wrongdoing in the state's vote in a December phone call, saying the official would be praised for doing so."

The report, at the time of its publication, was based on an anonymous source who had been briefed about the call.

A phone recording was later released by Georgia's secretary of state, showing that the Post had misquoted a few of Trump's comments on the call. In particular, Trump never said the phrase "find the fraud."

In a tweet this Monday, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) jumped on the correction, incorrectly calling it a "retraction."


Apparently this dishonest spin isn't just limited to here.


My dictionary disagrees. Stating that Trump told someone to commit fraud is a full on accusation of a crime. Now saying it might be obstruction equates to a full withdrawal of the original accusation of a crime.


re·trac·tion
/rəˈtrakSH(ə)n/
noun
1. a withdrawal of an accusation



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16 Mar 2021, 4:50 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.


:mrgreen:



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16 Mar 2021, 4:52 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Daddy63 wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From memory, that was left-wing disinformation.

I am not defending Trump.
I am defending the Truth. 8)
And how's that going for you? :chin:


In the last few days the Washington Post issued a massive retraction and admitted that Trump never asked a Georgia Elections official to "find the fraud" in the election. This was known as a lie all along but it was conveniently defended until now many months after the impeachment nonsense failed when it will barely get a mention on the news.

This corruption isn't going well for anyone from my perspective.


Maybe I'm no good at using Google, but can you link this retraction?

Their correction is easy to find but it doesn't amount to a retraction no matter how badly far-right media attempts to spin in that way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html


When you change the story and it means something totally different versus what you said it's called a retraction. Thanks for helping make the point and providing the link.


:mrgreen:



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16 Mar 2021, 5:40 pm

Daddy63 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
'Learn to read': GOP’s Madison Cawthorn brutally mocked for claiming bombshell Trump report was 'retracted'

Quote:
The Washington Post recently added a correction to a report that featured a detailed look how former President Trump "urged Georgia's lead elections investigator to identify wrongdoing in the state's vote in a December phone call, saying the official would be praised for doing so."

The report, at the time of its publication, was based on an anonymous source who had been briefed about the call.

A phone recording was later released by Georgia's secretary of state, showing that the Post had misquoted a few of Trump's comments on the call. In particular, Trump never said the phrase "find the fraud."

In a tweet this Monday, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) jumped on the correction, incorrectly calling it a "retraction."


Apparently this dishonest spin isn't just limited to here.


My dictionary disagrees. Telling someone to commit fraud is a full on accusation of a crime. Now saying it might be obstruction equates to a full withdrawal of the original accusation of a crime.


re·trac·tion
/rəˈtrakSH(ə)n/
noun
1. a withdrawal of an accusation


I see you're going with lie big and never concede strategy. :nerdy:



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16 Mar 2021, 6:37 pm

Cancelled?

Dude walked off the job and quit after he f****d up. No one cancelled him.


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