Why are so many people offended by my signature?

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Youve obviously not been around here too long.

Before posting I was going to use that very same word. LOL.

It's alright for two people with opposing viewpoints to debate one another on said viewpoints, be it politics, religion, or whatever your poison may be.

But all of that devolves into mindless squabbling when you start up with the ad hominem, attacking the person instead of the idea. It doesn't matter if you're an atheist, a christian, a buddhist, red, blue, white, black...

By attacking the person, not only does one stop furthering their argument, but they also display unnecessary anger and show themselves as one who gets caught up in their anger, and allows emotions to take over in rational situations.

Simply put, ad hominem is stupid.

(Joking.)

I would think that's obvious - such a conversal signature is bound to have comments.

I personally relate closer to Athism, as sometimes religion just complicates things, but I'm a Buddhist because one of my main goals is inner peace (plus you don't have to believe in a higher power, which I'm very wishy washy about)

Am I the only one that never reads signatures?

Oh, of course it's immature, I won't argue that. But people have the right to be immature morons.

While I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinions, I support your right to express them.

Wait...isn't there a quote that sounds something like that?

No. Never was. Voltaire disagrees with your opinion..

My only issue is that you make the same broad generalizations that are criticized and ineffectual when used by atheists when arguing their points about a religion. Before asked, I'll make my position and distinction known now - rather than an atheist or agnostic, I would consider myself an adeist... one without a godhead or figure that is central to my beliefs, while still having a measure of faith that supersedes the empirical. That, and it should be another 'e' in 'therefore' - sorry, it's like a hangnail.


M.

I have to agree. I'm a Christian (albeit a very liberal one), I've known and been friends with many atheists and agnostics who've had more character, integrity and soul than some I've known who claimed to be Christians. My own parents fit that bill; one's an atheist and one's an agnostic and they're wonderful people (my mom would do anything for anyone, has given her life to and for others). And they have never, ever put me down or criticized me for being a Christian, not even when I started going to church at a fairly young age.

You can't criticize and denigrate people for not believing what you believe, whether you're an atheist/agnostic or a religious adherent.

You're wrong, very wrong. Ive never met a more incorrect person living than you.

Budhism is considered a religion, but also as a philosophy. BTW everyone has a higher power, divine, material, or otherwise. Not everybody realizes this, however. Buddhism is not exactly atheism. It definitely includes ideas like divinity, love, compassion, and wisdom.

Plus I think you're pretty selfish if al you care about is inner peace. Selfish and lazy. I have no patience for people who are spiritually lazy.

Last edited by slowmutant on 02 Jun 2008, 9:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

There are a lot of stuff on here that I could comment on but I won't as I'm new and I don't know you well enough to tell if any of the comments are meant as jokes or not.


Instead I draw your attention to this, it's a bit of fun but a quite accurate assessment of how your personal beliefs fit in with the values of the 20 or so most commonly recognised organised religions:

What religion are you?

For the record I am a secular humanist

Well, try to put in any other religion or race and see what you get:

Jews drain wisdom. Wisdom that gives hope.
Blacks are people who have lost faith & imagination therfore have no character.
Mexicans drain wisdom. Wisdom that gives hope.
Christians are people who have lost faith & imagination therfore have no character.
Mormons drain wisdom. Wisdom that gives hope.
Asians are people who have lost faith & imagination therfore have no character.

If you can't see that making broad generalizations about ANY race, religion, or any other category that can possibly be used to describe someone would offend, than you really haven't spent much time outdoors, have you?

What if someone had in their signature:

Autistics drain wisdom. Wisdom that gives hope.
Autistics are people who have lost faith & imagination therfore have no character.

I assume you wouldn't be to happy about that, would you? You would probably assume them to be a troll, only posting to stir up people and make them angry?

Think before you post, even your signature.

Spinoza didn't believe in the Christian god. I think your signature implies that he does. I could be wrong, but If I recall correctly he may have even been an atheist. Can anyone correct me?

IF the OP can't see what's wrong with his statements, perhaps one day somebody will help him to understand using the tried and true "Punch-in-the-Face" teaching method. That's the kind of lesson you don't forget.