What are the odds of this being another William Freund?

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Orange County CA is one of the Richest Counties in the US and this was done in a new gated subdivision. This will be investigated. Trust me.

Now if this happened in Compton say, it would not have even made local news.

i doubt the media will take interest in the fact that he was a member here. there are probably other web sites that he was more actively involved with. if they do look in to his internet habits, they will probably investigate his involvement with the pro-suicide site that he mentioned.

The first thing that sprung to my head was motive.

Those people possibly gave him a hard life, (the ones from school), but that is no excuse for what he did.

It is not the sites fault that this has happened, it has been mixed up in something terrible.

I also don't think it's ecstacias fault for anything, unless she can see into the future.

Actually that isn't it at all, yes I'm cynical but making threats on an internet forum can't get you the help someone in the same physical location can... that's honestly the truth. And plus I don't believe the internet is the place for that sort of thing as we can't know fully if the person is telling the truth or not. Yes I've seen one woman talk like that in another forum, turns out she was just trying to get a rouse out of those on the forum, that's why I am cynical. We all tried to help this woman only to find out that she was a fake. Sorry but I don't consider being cautious as to what to believe on the net or not as 'passing the buck'.

uhhm excuse me but I did not say whether I did or didin't believe him, I never really saw any of his posts or knew who he was until after this had happened.

Why did you include my name, Ante?

Even If I was one of those people (WHICH IM NOT) i would not be held responsible as to what had happened.

I've been on the internet for nearly 7 years, and TRUST me, This is one of those boy who cried wolf happenings. The number of people that act like that and say stuff like that online are in the millions.

Ante, you're an ass. Noone's to blame for what WillFreund did, least of all anyone on WrongPlanet. You can't help someone who refuses to be helped. Stop trying to lay blame for his actions, on others. He was plainly psychotic. You can't blame anyone for his actions, except him. There's no justifying murder; that's exactly what it is.

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I think Ante should be IP banned from this site for that.

Shifting the blame on members as if it was our duty to save him, even if we never even saw any of his posts.

Even if the psychiatrist couldn't stop him, It wouldn't be his fault!!

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While some members may have been insensitive to him, it is unlikely, IMO, that they had any bearing on the final outcome of the murder/suicide. WillFreund1 wasn't responding positively to what advice was being offered, and there is no way anybody can take any responsibility for him pulling the trigger. The only thing I can't figure out is why didn't any neighbors return fire?

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Just found the thread, and saw that I did think he wasn't being serious.
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None of my posts in it were belittling him or anything, just said that the "buahahha" made it look like a joke, and wasn't sure of the seriousness of the thread.

I don't see what I did was wrong, as i'm used to seeing posts like that and none of them are ever telling the truth.

Maybe i'll just refrain from posting in those sort of threads all together.

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Fair play to NeantHumain for admitting he made a mistake and wanting to learn from it. Now that we have estabelished that the internet is not the place for suicidal threats or thoughts how long before we start banning self-harmers or start disbelieving and mocking victims of sexual abuse?

That is unbelievably naive of you. The media will twist everything around to further any petty agendas they may have and also to make a quick buck off of it. I would have been less annoyed with you for emailing the media if you had done it only for your own financial gain. At least then there would be fewer agendas involved. AS isn't always a mental illness! Too bad you aren't bipolar, because then you would know what a mental illness is!

Agreed. If the media starts publicizing the fact that he had AS, it will give people just one more reason to ostracize and discriminate against aspies.

The guy obviously had a lot more wrong with him and his life than just AS. And there are people on this board who have shown that people with AS can lead healthy and successful lives.

Ante seems to think it's the people that did not believe him that are responsible for this.


Tell me,

Is it A boys fault for calling his mother back to the house to give hima hug, and she walks down the drive and gets hit by a truck?

Is it your friends fault for telling you a certian route for you to walk, and then someone jumps out and mugs you?

NO.

People have NO idea of what the future holds due to their actions. It is NOT thier fault.

Ehem!

All contacts with the media will be handled through alex

Please do not take it upon yourself to go informing the media of willfreund's actions here. That is for alex to handle.