19 Nov 2021, 3:46 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Matrix Glitch wrote:
No kudos for being imaginative?
I'd be more charitably inclined if he didn't regularly post the same rant down in PPR, with slightly different flavor each time. He needs some new material, this bit is getting stale.
I wish he would stop attacking people.
19 Nov 2021, 3:48 pm
Dox47 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
In my view there was a lot of gray/borderline activity that night by multiple parties. But as one conservative commentator noted in a podcast where he shared his own conflicted feelings, at some point people have to acknowledge that if you go looking for trouble, you will find trouble, and have to be ready for the consequences. I do feel like Rittenhouse went looking for trouble.
I'd have more respect for that argument if it were made less selectively, as it applies at least as much to everyone shot by Rittenhouse as it does to Rittenhouse himself. I'd be curious how this case would have played in the media and such if everything stayed the same except that Rittenhouse was 25 and there was never any doubt about the legality of his weapon; would people be so quick to argue that it's reckless and foolish to try and protect your community from destructive rioting? When does it become okay?
Agreed.
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19 Nov 2021, 3:50 pm
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope Rittenhouse learned his lesson---and never plays the ass again.
But outside of wishful thinking, do you believe there's even a slight possibility of that? Folks who are gloating rarely learn lessons from their actions.
Agreed, but you do realise that comment applies to the people who were gloating that Rittenhouse was going to have a very difficult time in the prison system, right?
They will now be gloating that vigilantes will get him, in all probability, based on previous examples of behaviour.
I'd argue those people are demonstrating that they've learned the lesson here, that certain types of vigilante violence will be condoned. They're just engaging in wishful thinking that something they'd consider to resemble justice will occur.
19 Nov 2021, 3:52 pm
DW_a_mom wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
In my view there was a lot of gray/borderline activity that night by multiple parties. But as one conservative commentator noted in a podcast where he shared his own conflicted feelings, at some point people have to acknowledge that if you go looking for trouble, you will find trouble, and have to be ready for the consequences. I do feel like Rittenhouse went looking for trouble.
I'd have more respect for that argument if it were made less selectively, as it applies at least as much to everyone shot by Rittenhouse as it does to Rittenhouse himself. I'd be curious how this case would have played in the media and such if everything stayed the same except that Rittenhouse was 25 and there was never any doubt about the legality of his weapon; would people be so quick to argue that it's reckless and foolish to try and protect your community from destructive rioting? When does it become okay?
Purely speculative, but if he was 25 I’d be more inclined to believe he actually held murderous intent.
I consider it far less likely that a 25 year old would have found himself in the exact same positions seeing no other course than firing the weapon.
Police know that controlling destructive rioting is dang near impossible without risking death and injury to innocent parties. It’s why they don’t tend to engage that directly.
Does the argument also apply to the dead? Yes, it does. They also carry responsibility in the situation. But they didn’t shot the weapon and end someone else’s life.
Agreed.
BTW, I believe the last guy who was shot and wounded was holding a handgun.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
19 Nov 2021, 3:53 pm
HAHAHA, cope and seethe:
19 Nov 2021, 3:53 pm
19 Nov 2021, 3:55 pm
19 Nov 2021, 3:57 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
More and more, it seems like it was a bunch of idiots chasing each other. Playing War or whatever....
Agreed.
Stupid kids.
19 Nov 2021, 4:01 pm
Dox47 wrote:
HAHAHA, cope and seethe:
Having been gang-stalked for most of my life, I think a mob hunting down a lone individual is a bad idea.
19 Nov 2021, 4:02 pm
The ratio is just starting, and it's already brutal:
19 Nov 2021, 4:06 pm
19 Nov 2021, 4:06 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope Rittenhouse learned his lesson---and never plays the ass again.
But outside of wishful thinking, do you believe there's even a slight possibility of that? Folks who are gloating rarely learn lessons from their actions.
Agreed, but you do realise that comment applies to the people who were gloating that Rittenhouse was going to have a very difficult time in the prison system, right?
They will now be gloating that vigilantes will get him, in all probability, based on previous examples of behaviour.
I'd argue those people are demonstrating that they've learned the lesson here, that certain types of vigilante violence will be condoned. They're just engaging in wishful thinking that something they'd consider to resemble justice will occur.
I'm a little confused.
Which vigilantes are you referring to?
Those protecting property?
Or the "vigilantes" of social justice?
BTW, Isn't destroying property what protesters do, as a default, these days?
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19 Nov 2021, 4:11 pm
Dox47 wrote:
The ratio is just starting, and it's already brutal:
Ignoring the facts is quite useful.
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