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Completely agree with you.
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But you know Twilight Princess, the more posts we read the more we realize that they don't have this concern at all.

And a very fragmented overall vision.

Wars must always be avoided.

Don't incentivize: we're not taking action at all to do differently.

Among other things, these war actions overshadow the news of other wars, we are losing sight of them internationally.

Albert Einstein's words are prophetic. I hope we don't fuel macro wars, therefore a third world war.

We could be close.

Being inhuman prevails in people.

As long as the words "human beings" cross the high meanings of these two words.

This conflict risks annihilating two states, including Israel.

Not just the one considered the enemy.

Then he will have everyone against him militarily.

Question: who defends whom?

With a war fueling it?

Or justifying it, very often knowing two lines of the story told by the mass media?

The story according to the mass media and Google.

People become experts in things they never even studied in school.

He knows cities, he knows living conditions. he knows entire stories from millennia ago, even just a few centuries ago.

In Italy, when the war between Russia and Ukraine was brought to the media's attention, it had already existed for years.

On my island which is a large NATO base, therefore with protected airspace, I saw Russian fighters violating our airspace as early as 2014.

I read their signs.

They were short.

Pre covid 2019 I saw huge movements of forces towards Ukraine (the director was Germany).

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Wars solve nothing.

The danger and the enemy to fight was the USSR and its Communism.

The pre-World War I Fascist opposition was born in Italy, which we fought on the right side and therefore with the allies of today.

And the second which had a dictatorial precedent in our country, but the enemy was the politics of the Communists.

It always has been even when we were on completely different sides.

Now it's China.

Which is using wars that many define as local, but are not to hegemonize the world, the world for them is Chinese.

There will be other wars between the Russians and the Chinese over regions that the Chinese consider theirs to be theirs by historical belonging.

Even towards Japan which we don't talk about.
Towards Siberia that we don't talk about.
In 2019 in a megaforum I wrote that the danger was China and multiple wars.

One towards Taiwan, but also others towards Africa.

But in that thread they were all experts on places that didn't even know they existed until the day before.

Two days later he was very knowledgeable about what they didn't know.

Italians in areas under Russian control fought us in World War II.

The Germans had moved us there, the Italians had to go to mountain areas.

So every choice was not made to fight a war on flat land.

We consider that knowing both the Russians and the Chinese, as well as ourselves, wars are never underestimated.

And they do not respond to surrender behavior unless seriously forced to do so.

Our populations are ready and have always been ready to die and be annihilated rather than surrender even a single centimeter of territory or sovereignty.

Anyone who hopes to unite nations like ours is wrong in principle.

Nobody will change war plans, ever.

The ideas of going to war are archaic.

They will only lead to the annihilation and devastation of territories and people.

This one you are discussing hides a trap that will be the reaction of other states and will then be turned towards Israel.

To erase her from history forever.

We must absolutely avoid it.

You are playing a game of chess with people (Humans and not avatars from forums, or computer games, people...)

They are leading them to have no defense then.

They are using them.

But this is a message that doesn't get through.

There will still be an after: do we want it without Israel?

Are we defending them?

(Are we sure?)

I dunno how true are these things

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNBj7dnE/

Anyone for fact checks?

I'm not particularly religious but I pray you'll be safe, Boo.

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???. So this is getting ridiculous to me that these people are outright killing each other,on a wholesale basis.
So it really causes me to wonder, which political people are behind pushing this situation ? And how is that the people they represent . Do Not Demand their resignations ? Impeachment or recall they,or whatever , needs to make this stop .???.Makes me wonder ,where are their actual values in being in a political office.? Perhaps people with more brains need to be in charge ?. ....

I don’t know if this has been talked about yet:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna122596

Some are suggesting that “Israel is trying to […] stop the world from seeing what’s happening in Gaza.”



It seems like most humanitarian organizations who have been present in some capacity have major concerns with various facets of Israel’s behavior.

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It seems like most humanitarian organizations who have been present in some capacity have major concerns with various facets of Israel’s behavior.

Yes indeed , especially since Israelis have in the past had a reputation for killing members of those aide Organizations . And not by accident ..including a number of journalists. Cited from older utube documentery from a English journalist, interveiwing several other journalists with past Middle Eastern Assignments . (title available on demand) but its longish one .

I think it would be hard to remove oneself emotionally when one is actually present and can see the devastation and suffering. People who aren't near the action (or people on the opposing side) often distance themselves further with phrases like "collateral damage" which dehumanize the massive loss that's currently happening to people. It happens with any war, but I don't think it should.

At the beginning, he claims that the only governments likely to have sabotaged the Nordstream pipeline were the U.S.A. and the U.K. While I think it's possible that the U.S.A. or U.K. government did it, I can also think of various other possible perpetrators, such as Ukraine and maybe some other Eastern European countries that feel threatened by Russia. It is not yet known who sabotaged Nordstream.

I don't know enough to comment on other claims made in the video, except for my general impression that the narrator may be jumping to some unwarranted conclusions.

But I can certainly understand his fear that Israel is trying to commit genocide against the Palestinians.

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It does seem that our government seems to be supporting Israel in their actions..Both Physical and political activities.

Am hating to use the concept , that perhaps our country has become the United States of Israel, while US people standby and watch it happen...??? IMHO. And this does not mean, by my writing this, that I am anything other than pro- human .

No, I wouldn't go so far as to say our country has become the United States of Israel.

But there is indeed a lot of support for Israel here, partly due to the many evangelical Christians who believe in "premillenial dispensationalism" and thus regard the state of Israel as a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. Of course, there are also plenty of Jewish pro-Israel lobbyists, but it's unlikely that they would have been able to dictate the U.S.A.'s Middle East policy all by themselves, without a lot of help from evangelical Christians.


As noted above, there are plenty of "US people" who don't just "standby and watch it happen" but actively cheer for Israel.

I think Elon Musk and SpaceX did something similar in Ukraine after the Russian invasion.

Musk wouldn't be able to get the necessary ground-based equipment into Gaza.
It would be blocked either by the general blockade of, well, everything or specifically blocked by Israel.

Yeah, that’s true.

... unless some of the “internationally recognized aid organizations” already have the needed equipment?

^ Then the information vacuum wouldn't exist.