[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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29 Oct 2023, 10:51 am

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Musk wouldn't be able to get the necessary ground-based equipment into Gaza.
It would be blocked either by the general blockade of, well, everything or specifically blocked by Israel.


Sad truth of War whether justified or NOT ! ...As part of Warfare is to cut off communications and supplies to the people you percieve as the Enemy ..But good Ole Israel has been using the financially poor people. Of Palestine
for years as housekeepers grounds people..etc....What would one expect ? of the situation.
Now the Israelis got attacked by the people they were taking advantage of .???.By all outward appearances.
Perhaps a feeling of inequality was felt by people supporting Palestine.
If perhaps Israel was helping to have Palestinians have a higher standard of living or make developmental investments in that same country :| .??. And if course the USA ,with all its Israeli advocates is supporting the War.
It looks pretty bleak , overall in my opinion. And thought at one time our government was suppose to make decisions , free of ""outside countries influence"" Our country was not created to reinforce bias against groups or peoples in the world? :roll: ..( mistaken beliefs in the USA ..? )


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29 Oct 2023, 1:17 pm

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Israeli settler/soldiers arrived at the Palestinian village Khirbet Susiya late last night, threatened residents and told them to leave within 24 hours.
This is a red alert for violent forcible transfer, the international community needs to act now.
More details soon.


https://twitter.com/saritm0/status/1718530191155249615

But I'm sure some people will pretend this isn't happening until that becomes untenable, then switch to insisting it's both justified and perfectly legal.


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29 Oct 2023, 1:20 pm

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General assembly's vote result for ending the war.

Tho, it's meaningless.



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29 Oct 2023, 2:17 pm

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General assembly's vote result for ending the war.

Tho, it's meaningless.

In the short term it is meaningless. Israel is going to do what it is going to do. In the long term having the world against you makes things more difficult. Even despite the success knowing or perceiving the world hates you makes you miserable. It has made a difference in that a factor in Israeli decision making is the world hates us so why should we listen attitude.


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29 Oct 2023, 2:19 pm

At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?


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29 Oct 2023, 2:42 pm

Why would being against the war mean that people hate you? That seems rather extreme and not an accurate depiction of how most people feel. I’m strongly against the war as I’ve been against many others, but I don’t hate Israel. It’s true that I disapprove of their treatment of Palestine and their leadership, but I certainly don’t hate them. I hate Hamas, but I don’t hate Palestine.

I often disapprove of American wars and American leadership. Many countries have engaged in abhorrent behavior. It’s not just an Israel thing. While I don’t think people should hate them, I don’t think they should be given preferential treatment, either. Something between those extremes (love and hate) is probably where most but certainly not all of people’s views are.



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29 Oct 2023, 3:30 pm

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At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?

One would think that we would’ve been at that point ages ago.



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29 Oct 2023, 3:46 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?

One would think that we would’ve been at that point ages ago.


If it was any other country we almost certainly would.


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29 Oct 2023, 4:07 pm

I shall call myself a prophet.


In a search result I have found old posts of mine being critical of the US Democrat's friendly foreign policy toward Iran (and against their Arab allies), I have always been vocal that this policy will just enable Iran to sponsor more terrorism and death.

Here's one:
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Here's another:
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and another:

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From viewtopic.php?f=21&t=404833&p=9004818&hilit=Khashoggi#p9004818

I have an futuristic insight on this region better than anyone here, admit it....admi it! :mrgreen:



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29 Oct 2023, 4:11 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?

One would think that we would’ve been at that point ages ago.


If it was any other country we almost certainly would.

That is, if it's a country we bother to notice at all, in the first place. If I recall correctly, back in the early 1990's, not much if anything was done to try to stop the Rwanda genocide, whereas a big deal was made about ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia. Made me wonder if our government cared about ethnic cleansing only when the victims were Europeans.


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29 Oct 2023, 4:14 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
TwilightPrincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?

One would think that we would’ve been at that point ages ago.


If it was any other country we almost certainly would.

That is, if it's a country we bother to notice at all, in the first place. If I recall correctly, back in the early 1990's, not much if anything was done to try to stop the Rwanda genocide, whereas a big deal was made about ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia. Made me wonder if our government cared about ethnic cleansing only when the victims were Europeans.


You might be right. We're pretty hit-and-miss when it comes to condemning those sorts of acts in the Middle East and even worse the further away from there we go.


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29 Oct 2023, 4:21 pm

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At what point do economic sanctions or other acts that go beyond mere condemnation start to be considered?


Only if it's voted on by the UN Security Council, can that be mandated, but that will probably be vetoed by the US. The General Assembly does not have that kind power. Maybe individual countries in the general assembly can agree to sanctions like what they did to Russia when they invaded Ukraine, resolutions made in the general assembly is non-binding, unlike in the security council. Also, in the long run, most western countries probably won't agree to sanctioning Israel.



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29 Oct 2023, 4:23 pm

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30 Oct 2023, 5:01 am

This civilian car was clearly taking a u-turn

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30 Oct 2023, 7:38 am

Guess driving cars in the middleEast can have unique,,/ deadly..consequences .....uhmm.. maybe it was a traffic violation , Where was the No U- turn sign? SIGHES..... :( .
Have seen on CBS news here, that Israel has launched missiles into Syria too now. So are they starting a War on
Syria too now ? So are they going to send missiles anywhere people do not approve of them? Or they might ask
Syrian gov. to police their own borders ? ? 8O :mrgreen:


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30 Oct 2023, 10:27 am

Blueprint for genocide
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