Just when you thought Glenn was crazy enough...

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I've never heard of the left trying to bring in infiltrators to the tea party.
And I personally have never heard of the union members acting so badly as a group. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if individuals did, but I sincerely doubt that it would be common practice, as the unions want to keep the public's good will.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Show's how good your news sources are or rather are not.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?c=1&i=0bd_1279257426

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel ... wrong.aspx

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/08/d ... -in-nj-03/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN0_sx14GDU[/youtube]

Before you try to invalidate it due to something to Bretbart, he got the information from the Associated Press.

I don't agree with everything this individual says, particularly about Sarah Palin towards the end, the information on the infiltrators is the underlying issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04 ... ve-school/

You know you've slipped off into crazy land when you have to cite Alex Jones.

I stand corrected - about what may be just a few incidents.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Actually the crazy part, and I agree Alex Jones is crazy, is that the crazy man happens to be mostly correct concerning the situation and that's the scary part.



That explains why they (the left) jumped all over Conservatives accusing them of being accessories to murder in the Tuscon Shooting, and continued that song and dance after the evidence emerged that this guy was just plain nuts and didn't even listen to talk radio or Fox News...

Sorry, but in my opinion they (the leftist media) already had the story written and just had to insert the name of the congresswomen and the location and then ran with the story. I'm not accusing them of planning the shooting, I'm accusing them of wishing for an incident of violence that they could blame on conservatives.

Trust me, no one wanted to see anyone shot, just to carry on a blame game.
And just because that lunatic didn't listen to Fox or the other media outlets on the right doesn't mean that he wasn't influenced by the general air of hostility in the country, but in particular, Arizona.
And no, I'm not saying the talking heads on the right wanted anyone shot. But it's obvious people need to sit back and think before talking, especially when people's blood is up.
A good point being recently in Georgia, where someone at a Republican political rally asked far right wing congressman Broun, "Who's going to shoot Obama?" At the time, Broun just laughed it off with the audience. Days later, his staff convinced him to issue a statement condemning the questioner - after the incident became public. My point being, even though Mr. Broun was tardy in his condemnation, in the end it was the right thing to do. These things have to be jumped on immediately, regardless of which side of the aisle spouts this ugliness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Sorry but the rush to judgement with absolutely no evidence even before we knew whether she was still alive or if she was dead shows otherwise.

Further I would argue they wanted an incident like this precisely for the blame game. So they could discredit conservatives and other critics.



Then why is it okay for people on the left to use the violent rhetoric? There is a blatent double standard.

Again, I can't believe anyone wanted something like this.
And when did I ever say it was okay for the left to use violent rhetoric?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Uh the racial slurs to my knowledges was a trumped up charge made by the left.

Speaking of Deranged

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham ... untry-down

I have yet to see any evidence that there are no racists in the tea party movement. And no, I'm not saying that all members are racists, but there have been times when racists famously yelled racist and homophobic slurs at black lawmakers (one a famous civil rights champion), and Barney Frank. Sarah Palin and others had after ward claimed the Democrats had invented this incident, but I'm going to put my trust in these lawmakers who have histories of heroic service. I also remember early on, right after Obama had been elected, Time magazine had run an article about how white supremacist groups were infiltrating the likes of the Tea Party in order to play up on fears of a black president. Then there was that jackass Tea Party leader (sorry, I don't remember his name) who wrote for his website a letter from freed slaves to Lincoln, saying that they wanted to be re-enslaved so they wouldn't have to be responsible for themselves.
As for your link - this Mike Malloy guy seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch; but in all seriousness, how many people actually are influenced by this guy? As opposed to Glenn Beck.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

do you believe that glenn beck really believes what he says? Or do you think that glenn beck is a puppet and is told what to say and do?

It is next to impossible to prove something did not happen even when it did not happen, that is why people are innocent until proven guilty. As far as hurling insults at Barney Frank, I probably would be shouting insults at him myself and the reasons have nothing to do with homophobia or racism. It has to do with the fact he was one of the lawmakers getting sweethart deals from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as well as one of the lawmakers that kept insisting there was no problem with the two.



Well here is the problem with your argument, first the Democrats had every motive to lie about what they heard in the incident. They would want to discredit the tea party and their critics out of fear they would end up getting voted out of office. Second of all, if you trust anything a politician in office says just cause they happen to be a Democrat or having once done something heroic, then you really must be gullable.

Politicians have a reputation for dishonesty for a reason, there are exceptions to the rule. However, I can say with certainty that Barney Frank is not one of the exceptions.



And I honestly should care what TIME Magazine says, after their reporters and most of the mainstream media made it kind of clear they wanted to sleep with Obama and have his babies, why exactly?



Wasn't this guy kicked out of the Tea Party, as soon as this came to light? Tea Partiers do not tolerate racism, and think the entire concept is stupid. There are also african americans whom are in the tea party and they are readily accepted.



Difference is when I have listened to Glenn Beck's "outrageous" claims and do my own research even on some of these individual's own sites on the internet I can honestly find that Glenn Beck's conclusions are way to close to what my research says to dismiss him as a crackpot.

Furthermore, I have had my own experience with paying attention to what was going on during the 2008 election that gives added credience to what Beck is saying before I even knew Glenn Beck existed.

I actually literally saw the scrubbing of web sites that had things on them critical of Obama. I saw Youtube trying to censor people over it sometimes in the matter of about an hour after it was posted up, etc.

Well, those Tea Partiers didn't shout about FannyMae at Frank; they called him a fa***t. And I'm still going to take the word of a civil rights champion over the claims of the tea party, as this man has earned his credibility.

As for the mainstream media - I'm more likely to get my news from them than I am from Fox. Maybe they have some liberal bias, but I find them far more reliable than Fox.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Then where are the tapes? Cause the mainstream media would have been overjoyed to play them all day long cause it fits their narrative.

As you yourself said, there was such a noise of the crowd that it would have been impossible to detect the slurs. I find Frank and company reliable enough.

But here's something-
Why do they bury Aspies with their heads above the ground?
Because Aspie thick skulls last longer than tombstones.
You and I could argue over this for all eternity, and then some. Because we're Aspies.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I never said anything of the sort, I'm saying there are no tapes because the slurs probably were never said.