Bombings in Oslo, Norway; shootings

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There are six and half billion people on the planet. If there are "plenty" like him how come thousands or tens of thousands are not killed every day, instead of dozens?

Fortunately for you and me, people like this berserker are rare.

ruveyn

I never said he wasn't human. But humans turn into monsters. Doesn't make them less human. It does make them far less worth of existing than a single, purely harmful germ, though.

what I meant was - they appear on a very regular basis and in all human cultures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok (I know it's only a wikipedia article but it has some good citations). they are thankfully very rare, but the fact that they keep appearing must be saying something about human nature.

That doesn't sound like he used fully automatic fire. If he was spraying bullets in full auto, there would have been a whole lot more wounded than killed and he would have ran out of ammo faster. The rifle the media shows him holding appears to be a .308 caliber, which is relatively large and heavy compared to ammo used in AK-47s and AR-15/m-16s which would have limited his capacity even further, but would explain the unusually high dead to wounded ratio rather well if he was using carefully controlled semi-auto fire. When I first heard about this, it didn't sound like the shooter used machine gun. Walking calmly is a common part of SWAT/urban warfare tactics, and doesn't usually work practically with emptying magazines as fast as you can.

I agree. Nutty unnecessary killing is older than the hills.

ruveyn

Only the LEFT is capable of mass murder, genocide, terrorism. There is no such thing as an extreme right wing organisation.

I am educated by Fox News. Who really needs to be educated by Socialist professors spreading lies and misinformation about the right, law abiding conservative?

Have you studied what happened in Germany and Eastern Europe between 1941 and 1945?

ruveyn

I just read a news clipping. The Norwegian officials think this Berserk Viking shot up everyone to provoke an anti-Muslim crusade in Norway. Damn! I should have thought of that! It makes sense.

ruveyn

go troll somewhere else.



of course it does! he probably targeted kids to provoke support for his anti-abortion and anti-contraception agenda too

That's a very right wing extremist view you've got...

It doens't matter who does this stuff to another human group left, right. It's massively stupid on a scale above the terms we can normally think in. You can't bring a life back when it's been taken. You can't give a family back what they have lost. That's anybody's child , anywhere on this rock.
Meme.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWM0XswwGg&feature=related[/youtube]

All we got , and that's not some hippy bullsh*t

Meme

Apparently Anders Behring Breivik plagarized Ted Kaczynski in a 1500 page online rant.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... omber.html

It never stood to work anytime soon. Those kinds of major events only catch on when a large segment of the population's mood is right, and they clearly weren't receptive when he tried it. When it comes to the variety of skills he possesses he just might be the most deadly mass murderer since WWII, but his strategy to achieve his long-term political goals doesn't make any sense. I'm starting to come around to think that maybe he really was obsessed with killing people and mixed it with his political agenda like others here have suggested.

A political assassin. The bomb did not have much chance of taking down the government, just people on the street. Then he targets the youth wing of the Labor Party, their future leadership.

Those who lived will never forget.

One of these countries has been editing the Bible, mentioning Sodom has become a crime. The nation, Norwegians, the future, birth control, and bringing in immigrants who are of other faiths. Some do see this as self destruction.

Unlike other countries, France who invaded Algeria, most of West Africa, or England who invaded the world, who came by their minority populations through their acts, Norway invaded no one. They had a local range.

Importing an alien minority population does seem strange. What next, is Islam enough, or does equality call for importing Hindus in equal numbers?

What is the Jain quota?

There is a liberal view that banning some words, opening the borders, everyone will become the happy brotherhood of man. It has not been working out that way.

It is the same view that produced the Colonial Era, exporting French Culture to West Africa and Viet Nam will raise the people up to embrace all that is French. It raised the people up into a long and bloody war to get rid of the French.

Culture is the most powerful thing and always was. I think it is from Herodotus, three people, one ate their dead, one burned them and one buried them, each was shocked by the others. None would ever consider changing.

So this little story is about old christian closed culture Norway, and some moderns who want to change what has stood for a thousand years.

The French lasted 161 years in Algeria. They had a long run in Viet Nam. There is hardly any cultural impact left over from their stay.

After four hundred years the Romans pulled out of Roman England, no one ever spoke Latin again.

The modern politically correct view, if we just keep saying it it will become true, is doomed to the same fate.

America is not a melting pot. We have third generation Chinese who do not speak English, Mexicans who crossed the border twenty years ago or last week are still Mexicans, and live by Mexican cultural rules. Blacks live in a sub culture, as do whites. In New Orleans we do talk, socialize, are more alike than either with northern people. But we go home to our neighborhood and culture.

South Louisiana worships the Pope, and fifty miles north are Christians who cannot explain what that means, but they are enemies of the Pope. It makes for some great State politics. This has been the case since the Louisiana Purchase. Being invaded and occupied by the Union Army changed nothing.

When W.W.II put guns in the hands of Algerians and Vietnamese, it was like the French came yesterday. Twenty years, millions dead, they finally drove out the French. Then the Vietnamese drove out the Americans, just like they had the Japanese and the Chinese before.

The Great Powers of Europe had agreed to giving these lands and people to the French. They broke laws, killed French men women and children, and took their world back, a world that had died five generations before.

Cultural identity cannot be changed. Akmed the Viking will never fit in. The bones of ancestors in the ground are not his.

Short term thinking has long term results.

Unfortunately, Norway abolished their version of the Death Penalty in 1905.

Now they have to support this guy for the rest of his life. What a waste.

Just make things like sporks, meat with pieces of bone in it, cigarette lighters, string, and newspapers available in the cell blocks and let the other inmates handle it.

Or find a 7 foot tall, 300 pound gay guy somewhere in the prison system and make them cellmates.