WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THE DEATH PENALTY?

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agreed. Could get messy.

ho hum. yeah whatever.

why did u have to add the word whatever to the end of that?

He was agreeing with you.

I think I just caused an occurrence of Poe's law. I should have known better.

In PPR it's usually just understood that any post involving certain highly partisan members is going to be sarcastic because that's the only way to deal with them.

I don't care whether you were being sarcastic or not. And to be honest it doesn't matter whether you were meaning to be. I am going to take your comments for what they are, since you have given no apology. To be honest the comments you made earlier don't affect my personal opinion of other (actual) Death Penalty supporters. The onus of the problem of Poe's law as an excuse then can be ignored, because the point is that poe's law is supposed to reflect badly on a group, whereas my problem is personal with the fool who would made the comments.

There's a name for people who make inflammatory, extraneous and off-topic messages on a thread for the point of personal humour. They're called trolls. As far as I care to think trolling isn't 'understood' on any forum, and I don't think if it was anyone could justify it without ignoring reality. If you want to make something that's just understood, maybe you should back off from making silly parodies around someone making serious points.

I can't believe you're being partisan to the tough sentencing, no Death Penalty moderate either...

I apologize if my satirical comment offended you. Just let me assure you, I'm completely on your side regarding the death penalty.

I am very impressed with your apology. I complement you on willingness to put your stake in the ground when pressed. Thanks.

Awww isn't that sweet.

Innocents will die either way. With death penalty out of the picture, you will have high ranking crooks calling shots to kill those either within the prison or in the outside world. Innocents who have no prison or street ties will end up raped or attacked. Overcrowded prisons present much more opportunities for these types of things to happen as well as more blind spots to stash weapons and drugs. The death penalty is the lesser of two evils to me. Nice analysis though marshall, I always thought right wingers were the ones who had a blind spot in nuanced thinking. It has more to do with the reward outweighing the risk than it does with contradictory or hypocritical rationale.

I could agree with that.

My other additional problem is the cost of the appeals process superseding the cost of life in prison.

Other than that, I'm the same - no problem with the killing when they have the case air tight and the defendent offers to rape and kill their other son or daughter if he gets out.

Well are you going to make a real argument, or is turbid sarcasm your only response to anything noble? Absolutely pathetic.

Last edited by Gedrene on 03 Oct 2011, 12:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.

This doesn't make a lick of sense. You're saying that for no actual reason whatsoever that because there is no death penalty somehow criminals will be able to kill people in prison and on the street more. Given my support of life imprisonment, that's specious. The only reason why corruption happens in prisons is because of an ineffective prison system and corruption, not the lack of a death penalty.



No it doesn't. A corrupt prison system does lead to this. But no, a lack of a death penalty doesn't. This is a warped correlation with no basis in fact.


Well actually what marshall said by way of a joke wasn't hypocritical or contradictory at all. It was just plain unreasonable. And you're doing the same thing as him, saying it's okay if people die as long as these criminals die, but this time you're using a blanket of supposition, saying that somehow more people will die if the death penalty is not enforced whilst ignoring what actually causes hidden caches of weapons to appear in prisons.

The shock tactic with rapes or murders is pretty shallow by the way.

In the end the use of the death penalty decreases crime rate argument is quite ironic given that the USA has a higher murder rate than the UK, Norway, the Netherlands, France, Canada, Scotland, Ireland, Germany etc etc. In fact in every single sentence except where the Death Penalty is involved the USA actually does quite good. It's got a lower burglary rate than the UK.

Last edited by Gedrene on 03 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I don't like the death penalty because despite that the problem remains that the court makes mistakes. I don't feel like expending lives for a mistake. Even if I were a judge, and I do trust my opinions very much, I wouldn't send out a death penalty because I could be mistaken.

i was thinking that whatever the poster thought did not apply to me, and so i did not consider what the poster thought when i posted my reply.

why does talking to people have to be so complicated?

i know i am as smart as they,
yet they can not understand what i say.,
even when i serve my words on a silver f*cking tray,
they look the wrong way

la la bloody la

i am glad i bought a big comfy bed.

Last edited by b9 on 03 Oct 2011, 1:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

He was agreeing with you. He would have got it. I would have got it. You didn't sound like how you replied. You sounded like you were thinking he was being sarcastic.