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Who commits most if not all of the groups in world commit terrorist acts? Arabs commit those acts.

I will not be surprised if he is on a FBI watch list. His father has mentioned that he is a "radicalized" Muslim to news outlets

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That's what I was thinking, I mean it's possible that someone would have a friend with guns and vests nearby who they called when pissed off and things got out of control, but those things, a female accomplice, and pipe bombs? My question is the choice of target, I mean if this is straight up terrorism, why the hell would they go after a small local government event and not, say, a mall or a school?

I wonder how CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood is going to spin this

My speculation is that they thought they could get away and possibly commit more attacks like what happened in France. It's a pretty large state-run facility for social services, they lived nearby and probably thought it was a soft target. These seem like terrorists of the "homegrown" variety rather than some foreign sleeper cell.

Even so, it's an odd choice, if this actually is a terrorist attack and not some sort of long simmering grievance; I'd really think that even a self radicalized terrorist would attack more of a symbolic target or one with a higher potential body count, a health department Christmas party is just strange.

Incidentally, if anyone is looking for a short term investment opportunity, I imagine the price of AR15s is about to go through the roof...

Police released the name of another suspect: Tayyeep Bin Ardogan, 28 years old and a Qatari citizen.

Muslims.

Again.

Including Arab Christians, or are you just implying the Muslim Arabs?

Also, just to point out the uncomfortable reality, there have been far more Christian right-wing terrorist attacks in America than Muslim. Partial list:

- The Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church Shooting
- The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombings
- Everything The Ku Klux Klan Has Ever Done
- The Massacre At Zion Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C.
- Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012
- Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008
- The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996
- Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010
- The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984
- Murder of Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, 1999
- Centennial Olympic Park bombing, 1996 (Alice Hawthorne died, 111 others wounded)
- Bombing of Otherside Lounge of Atlanta a lesbian bar on February 21, 1997


The Campaign of terror against abortion doctors & clinics including:
- The murder of Dr. John Britton, James Barrett, June Barrett, July 29, 1994
- The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009.
- The murder of Barnett Slepian, Oct. 23, 1998
- Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994
- The murder of Dr. David Gunn, March 10, 1993
- The murder of Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, December 30, 1994 (+ five wounded)
- The murder of Robert Sanderson, January 29, 1998 (+ Emily Lyons, a nurse, severely injured, lost an eye in the bombing)
- The kidnapping of Hector Zevallos & his wife,
- Abortion clinic bombing in Sandy Springs, January 16, 1997
- Women's Community Health Center in Huntsville Alabama attacks/assaults, May 12, 1984
- Stabbing of Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana, December 18, 1996
- Attack on Dr. David Gandell, Rochester New York, October 28, 1997
- Joseph Grace set the Hillcrest clinic ablaze in Norfolk, Virginia, May 26, 1983
- Pensacola, FL abortion clinic bombing, December 25, 1984
- Torching of the Feminist Health Center clinic in Concord NH, July 3, 1989
(and again in May 28, 2000)
- Firebombing of Blue Mountain Clinic in Missoula, Montana, March 29, 1993
- Acid attacks at five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida, May 21, 1998
- Torching of Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, October 1999
- John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. September 30, 2000
- Bombing of abortion/health clinic in Tacoma, Washington, June 11, 2001
- Torching of a clinic in Palm Beach, Florida, July 4, 2005
- Molotov cocktail attack on a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana, December 12, 2005
- David McMenemy drove his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. September 11, 2006
- Bomb left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, April 25, 2007
- Torching of Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia, May 9, 2007
- Arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque, NM, December 6, 2007
- Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota rammed w/SUV, January 22, 2009
- American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida firebombed, January 1, 2012
- Bombing of Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, April 1, 2012
- Planned Parenthood clinic in Bloomington, Indiana, vandalized with an axe, April 11, 2013
- Planned Parenthood clinic in Pullman, Washington was intentionally set on fire, September 4, 2015
- Planned Parenthood clinic in Thousand Oaks, California vandalized by an arsonist, September 30, 2015
- Planned Parenthood clinic in Claremont, New Hampshire was vandalized, October 22, 2015
- Hoax anthrax letters containing white powder mailed to 554 clinics, November 2001

Largest Christian Terrorist groups worldwide:
The Army of God - openly promotes killing abortion providers, members involved in killings listed above
Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God - beatings, kidnappings, killings
The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) - thousands of killings and kidnappings in Africa
TheNational Liberation Front of Tripura - vowed to kill anyone who participated in Durga Puja (an annual Hindu festival). In one spree, killed at least 30 Hindus in May 2003.
- The Phineas Priesthood (publishers of “Vigilantes of Christendom,”), Aryan Nations and the Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) - mostly bombings, robberies and shootings
- The Concerned Christians - 60 members quit their jobs & were caught in Israel trying to bomb Jerusalem’s al-Aqsa Mosque, 1999

(note regarding Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995. Inconclusive as to whether he was Christian/Christian influenced)

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Arab Muslims. Groups like Hamas, Hezbollah,ISIS,IRGC, and Al Queda. These groups have committed terroristic acts and are arab muslims. The IRGC funds Hezbollah and Hamas. ISIS is funded by the billions of dollars in plundered oil. Al Queda is funded by various groups.

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He worked for the agency, had an argument with a fellow attendee at the holiday party, bolted from the venue, then returned with two more shooters, complete with assault weapons (not handguns, but AK47s) and in army fatigues. Nope.. the fight was probably just a ruse. One does not magically find assault weapons or pipe bombs right after a disagreement with a coworker. He had likely been planning it for some time. B@stard.

Neighbours claim that he was always polite but became "more religious" a few years ago, and began to sport a beard, and wear "religious clothing". His father adds, "he's Muslim".

Well, DUH, thank you for that little heads-up, Mr. Obvious.

This is why gun control should be mandatory. Especially if you are a follower of the religion of peace (NO guns for you, if so, not even a hunting rifle).

I read a report that the Israeli Navy constantly intercepts shipments of weapons from Iran headed to Hamas and Lebanon.

Stop slandering Arabs. Arabs can be any religion and Muslims can be any nationality.

The truth hurts a little,. I do not see WASPS who live in the Hamptons doing this. They are all Radicalized Sharia based Arabs who want to turn the clock back to the 7th century

So muslims should have less rights than everyone else?....because everyone knows only muslims can commit acts of gun violence or become extremists