London Mayor- 'too many white men'

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Likewise I'm not aware the Jewish population in the US (your intended target) was responsible for occupying the West bank or Gaza? The analogy is accurate as both the Jews and Asians in the US are hard working and responsible communities who mind their own business.

Um, in a lot of cases they actually are. They moved from the US and onto land stolen illegally from Palestinians. Nice racial colonies. Depends on which Jews you're talking about, in fact a lot of the left wing Jewish community are becoming more and more critical of Israel's action and the right wing have a strong influence over US foreign policy. A lot of people work hard.

So conversely I'm talking about the Palestinians involved in the "intafada" who lob incendiaries into Jewish schools or child care centres or stab teenagers or young women...or the ones who scream "death to the infidels" or the ones who danced after the 9-11 attacks or those who believe using suicide bombs is justified

If you want to talk about crimes on those groups, the Israelis are far worse. No one in their right mind defends innocent civilians being killed. Though, 95% of Israelis supported the 2014 massacre in Gaza and lots of people sat on the beach to watch the bombing of Gaza like it was a firework display. Yeah, that was a weird tape on 9/11, no evidence that they are celebrating 9/11, and the cameraman handing out cake. What we don't hear about is the Israelis that were actually dancing and celebrating in New York when the first plane hit the tower.

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To clarify the "dancing in New York" meme that both sides have posted, I believe one of you is regurgitating Trump propaganda and the other is regurgitating a poorly-reported incident in which a bunch of brown Israelis in New Jersey were accused of celebrating during 9/11 and recording the first attack. In reality, the men only began recording after the first attack, like thousands of others in NY and NJ. There's no evidence that they were celebrating anything.

Allegedly, the US had advanced notice of Pearl Harbor, and the USS Liberty incident was reported by red Russia -- hardly an impartial observer.

Anti-whites one minute: "it's wrong for White people to object to the mass migration of non-Whites into their countries because race doesn't matter."

Anti-whites the next minute: "now that there a lots of non-Whites in the countries that White people built we have to remove more White people from positions of power because race does matter."

I learnt long ago that there's no point debating with people who come out with this sort of s***. Responding with a "f*** you" is far more appropriate.

But you're fine with endless actual Russian conspiracy theories? Is the truth against the rules?

Yep, it's definitely "poorly reported", as it hasn't been reported since 9/11, just totally forgotten that the van was pulled over with traces of explosives in and another van on the George Washington bridge was pulled over packed with explosives. Trouble is, there's an FBI report and the Israelis went onto TV once deported to say they were there "to document the event", how can you document an event unless you know it's going to happen? "In reality, the men only began recording after the first attack" in reality the men lied completely and failed a polygraph.

https://www.scribd.com/collections/4010 ... FBI-report

Are you kidding me? Can anyone answer anything without saying "Russia"? The incident isn't a secret, numerous scholars have written about it. The only thing being is that the media repeat the lie, that it was a mistake. Must have not seen the American flags and the men waving at the planes.

Yeah, I understand the frustration. Thanks for understanding and clarifying my points.

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It hasn't been reported by credible organisations because frankly it's a load of bollocks. It still has a lot of traction in conspiracy circles and was even repeated by a Presidential candidate recently.

Could you please provide a source for this? The documents you posted were not helpful. The police report did not mention explosives, and the FBI report did not mention them before I got bored of reading dull paperwork.

There was a media report that a van full of explosives was stopped, but they issued a correction within 8 minutes and the police denied any explosives were found.


The witnesses only saw them recording after the first plane hit. No need to trust the word of the five Israelis.

Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable. In any case, four of the men passed them, and the fifth only failed the first time because he didn't want to discuss work he'd done for an Israeli intelligence agency outside of the US. He passed a second test.

You should find this interesting.

Sounds like conspiracy theories, I'll opt out at this point

I haven't made any slurs.

It has been reported by 'credible' organisations on 9/11, now totally forgotten, swept under the rug and barely mentioned ever again. Reports here, don't get bored-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8EweNlo8LA

Can you post the link where it says about the correction after 8 minutes please? That still wouldn't mean that there wasn't a van packed with explosives. The media could have gotten the nod to make a 'correction'. You can hear all the reports of the van packed with explosives, and that there was enough explosives "to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge" and that they have "2 suspects in custody".

If the witnesses only saw them recording afterwards, that doesn't mean they weren't recording it before it happened.

Yes they're unreliable, but he lied about enough things.

Haha, 9/11 myths site is ludicrous. And the site is too idiotic to realise that they help give the game away by quoting one of the suspects who said "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." No one even talked about it being "terror" until after the second plane hit, as it was thought the first plane was or could be a freak accident, but the Israelis in question knew it was a terrorist attack and were there to document it.

Oh yeah, only "conspiracy theories" about Russians are viable.

I dont think it'd be entirely unfair to say that the mayor of london isnt english, he's a pakistani ex pat. English people always seem to be english people no matter how long they live somewhere else. The same standards should be held for all.

I've met plenty of people that aren't ethnic english but id happily consider british btw. Just yesterday i was talking to a man of pakistani ethnic heritage that has one of the strongest local accents that ive ever heard. I have multiple mixed race pakistani family members. I just dont think im happy to consider a person british simply because of the place they were born. Ex pat seems far more appropiate for people like the london mayor.

His opinion is offensive btw. I dont believe in disowning the place i was born and grew up in, that shaped many aspects of who i am. Im british, and THIS IS MINE. I dont hate, im autistic, i only have time for the things i love. And i love my country and anybody that thinks they can take it away can stand by. The true haters are the ones that continually try and distance themselves from who and what they are. Liberals hate more than anyone.

what a lovely sweeping generalisation