18 Nov 2018, 10:54 am
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18 Nov 2018, 11:24 am
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
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She's a crook.
She shut people down when they asked questions about the war! Then she was pushing war propaganda about Syria too. It is more like you think she will be a good President based on her skin color and gender.
She shut people down when they asked questions about the war! Then she was pushing war propaganda about Syria too. It is more like you think she will be a good President based on her skin color and gender.
Those things play a small role, yes. She's wildly successful in a sexist racist country despite all of the systemic obstacles in her way. She's a powerful charismatic person & would no doubt be a better POTUS than the current racist in chief who's anti science, anti women, anti gay, anti muslim, anti immigrant etc etc & worst of all for all of us - a climate change science denier. Literally almost anyone would make a better president than trump.
She has no policies and you want to elect her based on her skin color and gender. Good luck with that....
trump had no good policies & he got elected based on his skin colour and gender.
You can't get elected just for being white. Trump appealed to the working class, spoke against the establishment and against wars. That's why he won.
He appealed to the working class by lying. There’s nothing actually appealing to him by the working class he’s taking from. (Taxes, healthcare, education etc)
He lied about draining the swamp. People said he was bullshitting but the American public must have been too stupid to accept it.
He didn’t speak against wars. He said he would boost military spending, rebuild their armed forces, and said a few times that there’s no point in having nukes and not using them.
He got elected because he’s an old rich white guy who gave a nod to white supremacists that he was their man.
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18 Nov 2018, 4:13 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
That's what every politician has done in history to get elected.
He spoke against previous wars and spoke against the support for Al Qaeda in Syria.
He went for the white working class vote and the working class vote. Hillary went for every color and sexuality though she is had always been against gay marriage and spoke against immigration and talked of building a wall. And her and her husband helped pour millions of black people into prisons. Not to mention all the brown people she's helped bomb over the years.
You have no arguments.
He spoke against previous wars and spoke against the support for Al Qaeda in Syria.
He went for the white working class vote and the working class vote. Hillary went for every color and sexuality though she is had always been against gay marriage and spoke against immigration and talked of building a wall. And her and her husband helped pour millions of black people into prisons. Not to mention all the brown people she's helped bomb over the years.
You have no arguments.
I didn't say Hillary was a saint. Her and Bill & the rest of the Clintons are a crime family like the trumps, too. But they're at least civil with the rest of the world and would have been a better option than trump stirring s**t up absolutely everywhere and pissing everyone off.
Neither was a good option, but Hillary was a better option. I think even Americans now see that in hindsight.
Bernie would have been the best of the bunch, though.
edit: Just because you don't agree with me does not mean that I don't have any arguments. Learn how to discuss & debate civilly vs. being so rude.
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18 Nov 2018, 5:35 pm
Was she wrong? 
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Was she wrong?
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Whether she was right or wrong is beside the point. Arrogance is not a trait that is well received by the general public. She was also caught out for calling Bernie Sanders supporters "basement dwellers." Stuff like that is not going to help raise her likability rating.
I think the very fact that she is even considering running for president again shows that she doesn't give a s**t about the American people; rather, she is a power hungry, self-entitled elitist who believes it's her God-given right to be president of the United States.
18 Nov 2018, 6:10 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
Was she wrong?
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
The Democrats are meant to support the working class not spit in their faces. She lost votes by spitting on the working class. No one is more deplorable than that psycho.
18 Nov 2018, 6:45 pm
18 Nov 2018, 7:41 pm
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18 Nov 2018, 8:05 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Was she wrong?
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
The Democrats are meant to support the working class not spit in their faces. She lost votes by spitting on the working class. No one is more deplorable than that psycho.
She wasn't calling working class people deplorables, though. Rather, she was describing white nationalists and every day bigots as such.
18 Nov 2018, 8:18 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Was she wrong?
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
The Democrats are meant to support the working class not spit in their faces. She lost votes by spitting on the working class. No one is more deplorable than that psycho.
She wasn't calling working class people deplorables, though. Rather, she was describing white nationalists and every day bigots as such.
She was calling all Trump supporters "deplorables." Not all Trump supporters are white nationalists and bigots. And like it or not, even white nationalists and bigots are, for the most part, part of the working class. It was just a very stupid, arrogant comment for her to have made.
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18 Nov 2018, 9:34 pm
JohnPowell wrote:
It really is sickening when Democrat voters call millions of working class people deplorables but they defend a psychotic mass killer like Clinton.
Are you calling me a Democrat voter?
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19 Nov 2018, 12:08 am
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19 Nov 2018, 1:19 am
VegetableMan wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Was she wrong?
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
Maybe 50% is high. I think trumps base is around 29%.
The Democrats are meant to support the working class not spit in their faces. She lost votes by spitting on the working class. No one is more deplorable than that psycho.
She wasn't calling working class people deplorables, though. Rather, she was describing white nationalists and every day bigots as such.
She was calling all Trump supporters "deplorables." Not all Trump supporters are white nationalists and bigots. And like it or not, even white nationalists and bigots are, for the most part, part of the working class. It was just a very stupid, arrogant comment for her to have made.
I believe she said half of them were deplorables.
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19 Nov 2018, 2:48 am
What's wrong, or not factual, with calling trump supporters "deplorables?"
Quote:
de·plor·a·ble
/dəˈplôrəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
synonyms: disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable, unworthy, inexcusable, unpardonable, unforgivable; More
shockingly bad in quality.
"her spelling was deplorable"
synonyms: lamentable, regrettable, unfortunate, wretched, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, diabolical; More
/dəˈplôrəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
synonyms: disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable, unworthy, inexcusable, unpardonable, unforgivable; More
shockingly bad in quality.
"her spelling was deplorable"
synonyms: lamentable, regrettable, unfortunate, wretched, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, diabolical; More
Seems rather suitable to me.
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