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16 Dec 2018, 1:57 am

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That's not an argument as NATO was kept after the end of the war long before the hysteria over Putin.


There was a real fear that Russia could become a threat again - which it has - thus justifying the continued existence of NATO.


:lol: :lol:


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16 Dec 2018, 1:59 am

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The idea that any of those 21 people arrested - who will be tortured all day every day for the rest of their lives - were anything other than convenient stooges, is laughable. MBS is the only one responsible, and this barbarian is actively supported by Trump and Theresa May.


That's doubtlessly why the Saudis refuse to extradite the alleged 21 guilty persons to the US, lest we find out wht we already know to be true.


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16 Dec 2018, 2:21 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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That's not an argument as NATO was kept after the end of the war long before the hysteria over Putin.


There was a real fear that Russia could become a threat again - which it has - thus justifying the continued existence of NATO.


:lol: :lol:


Don't laugh. Just because he's 65 and has already been in power for 20 years, doesn't mean he isn't suddenly going to... umm... well you know.



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16 Dec 2018, 2:27 am

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The idea that any of those 21 people arrested - who will be tortured all day every day for the rest of their lives - were anything other than convenient stooges, is laughable. MBS is the only one responsible, and this barbarian is actively supported by Trump and Theresa May.


That's doubtlessly why the Saudis refuse to extradite the alleged 21 guilty persons to the US, lest we find out wht we already know to be true.


:lol:


And so you believe that the prince had nothing to do with the murder/dismemberment?


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16 Dec 2018, 4:10 pm

Just find it amusing abour the selective outrage and believing stuff just cause it looks bad on Trump.


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16 Dec 2018, 4:15 pm

Mr Powell is right here in that Mr Obama was just as much a supporter of Saudi Arabia as Trump is and received none of the criticism for it. Of course, as I have stated elsewhere, there's no real difference between a two men.



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16 Dec 2018, 5:00 pm

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Just find it amusing abour the selective outrage and believing stuff just cause it looks bad on Trump.


Again ,does that mean you believe the Prince is innocent?


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16 Dec 2018, 5:01 pm

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Mr Powell is right here in that Mr Obama was just as much a supporter of Saudi Arabia as Trump is and received none of the criticism for it. Of course, as I have stated elsewhere, there's no real difference between a two men.


Except that I don't recall Obama ever blatantly lying for the sake of the Saudi elite, especially when it involved a political murder.


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16 Dec 2018, 5:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Mr Powell is right here in that Mr Obama was just as much a supporter of Saudi Arabia as Trump is and received none of the criticism for it. Of course, as I have stated elsewhere, there's no real difference between a two men.


Except that I don't recall Obama ever blatantly lying for the sake of the Saudi elite, especially when it involved a political murder.


He hasn't lied; he basically admits that MBS is responsible, only he pleads the usual elite excuse of economic expediency: "we have to cooperate with the Saudis for their arms cash". Neville Chamberlain would be proud.



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16 Dec 2018, 5:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Just find it amusing abour the selective outrage and believing stuff just cause it looks bad on Trump.


Again ,does that mean you believe the Prince is innocent?


I don't know, the CIA saying he is guilty isn't evidence. I hate that country and him but I don't think it makes sense that he'd be that stupid.


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16 Dec 2018, 5:16 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Mr Powell is right here in that Mr Obama was just as much a supporter of Saudi Arabia as Trump is and received none of the criticism for it. Of course, as I have stated elsewhere, there's no real difference between a two men.


Except that I don't recall Obama ever blatantly lying for the sake of the Saudi elite, especially when it involved a political murder.


The US worked together with the Saudis under Obama to carpet bomb Yemen and kill over 100 children a day. That's far more sickening than a Jihadi journalist being killed.


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16 Dec 2018, 8:27 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Just find it amusing abour the selective outrage and believing stuff just cause it looks bad on Trump.


Again ,does that mean you believe the Prince is innocent?


I don't know, the CIA saying he is guilty isn't evidence. I hate that country and him but I don't think it makes sense that he'd be that stupid.


Spy masters have come up with some ridiculous schemes in their time.
I think the Prince has much in common with Trump and Kushner: none of them are nearly as smart as they imagine themselves to be. Besides, Kushner had already guaranteed he' be allowed to get away with something like this.


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16 Dec 2018, 8:28 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Mr Powell is right here in that Mr Obama was just as much a supporter of Saudi Arabia as Trump is and received none of the criticism for it. Of course, as I have stated elsewhere, there's no real difference between a two men.


Except that I don't recall Obama ever blatantly lying for the sake of the Saudi elite, especially when it involved a political murder.


The US worked together with the Saudis under Obama to carpet bomb Yemen and kill over 100 children a day. That's far more sickening than a Jihadi journalist being killed.


Who says I'm defending that? But just when did Obama ever try to blame someone else for the bombing?


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