09 Feb 2019, 7:27 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
I'm not actually a fish, buuuut:
There are plenty of frogs and bumblebees where I live.
Here's recent video of Monarchs
I'm all for conservation. But I have a problem with doomsday claims I can easily see aren't true.
I hear Alaska is out of salmon, I check that and see last season Alaska had a banner year for salmon.
I hear that bumblebees have disappeared, and I remember seeing tons of bumblebees pollinating all the blackberry flowers last year.
I hear frogs have disappeared and I remember seeing and especially hearing tons of frogs last year. I even made a post about all the frogs last year. viewtopic.php?t=366213
09 Feb 2019, 8:29 pm
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09 Feb 2019, 8:32 pm
Your extremely localized observation of a few bees and frogs is not indicative of those animals' populations around the world, across your country, or even your state. The people who's job it is to monitor, measure, record and report these creatures' populations know FAR better than one person's observations in their backyard or on a walk around the block.
Your post is like trump when he says "it's cold outside today so where's global warming?"
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09 Feb 2019, 9:10 pm
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goldfish21 wrote:
Your post is like trump when he says "it's cold outside today so where's global warming?"
Conservatives who are in the pocket of fossil fuel companies are prone to make public comments that go against the 97% of all climate scientists in 80 countries who agree that it's a forgone conclusion anthropogenic induced climate change is real.
In addition to "hot" water the oceans are also getting more acidic as carbon locked in the oceans become labile resulting in acidification and bleaching of coral and destruction of plankton which form the basis of all food chains in the ocean.
Mhmm - I am aware of these things. I posted a thread a few days back about how many American Congress members accept Millions from the fossil fuel industry in exchange for their climate science denial & enacting laws that enrich said corporations. These things are all very easily seen by anyone that doesn't have their head in the sand.
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09 Feb 2019, 10:50 pm
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If bumblebees and frogs have disappeared, then I wouldn't be seeing them, anywhere.
Things are not as bad as they're being made out to be by the imminent doomsday bunch.
And it's because of imminent doomsday alarmist melodrama, that many people aren't taking climate change seriously.
Things are not as bad as they're being made out to be by the imminent doomsday bunch.
And it's because of imminent doomsday alarmist melodrama, that many people aren't taking climate change seriously.
No one has said they have disappeared entirely. It's known that they are disappearing.
Things are exactly as bad as they are observed & reported to be. That's the thing with science, it simply is exactly what it is - there is no sliding scale of making things sound better or worse, only observable objective reality.
It's because of science deniers that people aren't taking scientists seriously.
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10 Feb 2019, 3:21 am
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I think where there's a conflict of interest ( i.e. holding high office and accepting donations from advocacy groups ) then the person should be removed aforementioned high office for not representing the actual interests of their respective electorates.
The US system of accepting donations comes across as "bribes"
The US system of accepting donations comes across as "bribes"
Ding ding ding.
The way to get through to them is to identify them & then vote for ethical candidates to replace them with.
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10 Feb 2019, 3:07 pm
sly279 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I think where there's a conflict of interest ( i.e. holding high office and accepting donations from advocacy groups ) then the person should be removed aforementioned high office for not representing the actual interests of their respective electorates.
The US system of accepting donations comes across as "bribes"
The US system of accepting donations comes across as "bribes"
Just for republicans I imagine
What about democrats?
What about democrats who invest in gun companies then push gun control which causes increased gun sales thus making them millions. If it doesn’t pas then get richer if it passes they still get richer and cash out before the falls and score points with anti gun people. It’s win win.
Bloomberg has bought votes in my state and owns our governor.
I don’t think any out of state funding or donations should be allowed.
They represent Oregon not New York billionaires
They should ALL be kicked out of office and/or go to jail, regardless of party. IMO. There was no mention of republicans or conservatives, only corrupt politicians.
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