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12 Nov 2021, 4:13 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

AOC has a lot of fans among the younger generation; they connect with her.

She really is a light weight though, she's done a number of interviews where it's been really clear that she knows what her opinion is supposed to be, but not really why, one she did on the Israel/Palestine situation really stuck out in particular. The irony is that she's in may ways similar to Trump, very good at generating headlines and working social media, but not very good at her actual job of doing politics and getting things done, she's a celebrity first and a legislator second.

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12 Nov 2021, 4:21 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:

AOC has a lot of fans among the younger generation; they connect with her.

If Trump looked like her, I'd be a Trump fan. :mrgreen:

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12 Nov 2021, 4:27 pm

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If Trump looked like her, I'd be a Trump fan. :mrgreen:

Not quite, but check this out, I've always found it kind of amazing:

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12 Nov 2021, 4:27 pm

AOC needs to be worshipped like a goddess.

Anyone who doesn't is racist and sexist.

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12 Nov 2021, 4:56 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

AOC needs to be worshipped like a goddess.

Anyone who doesn't is racist and sexist.

Agreed.

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12 Nov 2021, 7:13 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

AOC needs to be worshipped like a goddess.

Anyone who doesn't is racist and sexist.

I don’t feel that is true. I disagree with her on many things, and my kids don’t find me way off base there. But there is no denying she can fulfill the assignments she is given which, to Dox47’s point, have tended to do with social media and messaging. Without a doubt, those are where she is strongest.

Young adults feel she is giving them a voice. It’s a segment that needs to feel it has one. Congress is a good place for it, IMHO. She doesn’t have to do the heavy lifting; there are others in Congress to play those different roles.

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12 Nov 2021, 7:18 pm

Dox47 wrote:

Pepe wrote:

If Trump looked like her, I'd be a Trump fan. :mrgreen:

Not quite, but check this out, I've always found it kind of amazing:

I like this.

Still have half to view though …

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12 Nov 2021, 7:35 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

I like this.

Still have half to view though …

Trump in pearls would be a shockingly strong candidate, right? Can you imagine how she'd have handled the sex scandals? "That's right, I grabbed 'em right by the balls, they let you do that when you're famous..." "Grab 'em by the balls" would have been the campaign slogan.

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12 Nov 2021, 7:52 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:

I like this.

Still have half to view though …

If she was a liberal, conservatives would call Ms. Trump a "nasty woman," and would huff and puff how they alone are the party of family values.

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12 Nov 2021, 8:38 pm

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If she was a liberal, conservatives would call Ms. Trump a "nasty woman," and would huff and puff how they alone are the party of family values.

Maybe if the campaign were held in 1998, GOP messaging is a bit different these days.

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12 Nov 2021, 8:42 pm

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

If she was a liberal, conservatives would call Ms. Trump a "nasty woman," and would huff and puff how they alone are the party of family values.

Maybe if the campaign were held in 1998, GOP messaging is a bit different these days.

Such as how?

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12 Nov 2021, 8:53 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:

Young adults feel she is giving them a voice. It’s a segment that needs to feel it has one. .

I think she and Ilhar Omar are popular with young progressive urban adults who vote democrat. I am impressed that in a climate against orthodox islam that somebody like Ilhar Omar (who is Somali) could gain support in a mid-western state like Minnesota.

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12 Nov 2021, 9:03 pm

Dox47 wrote:

DW_a_mom wrote:

I like this.

Still have half to view though …

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12 Nov 2021, 10:25 pm

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DW_a_mom wrote:

I like this.

Still have half to view though …

I’m not so sure. Whole other topic but the women who can rise in the Republican Party all fall within a very narrow set of parameters that women like Ivanka Trump personify quite well. Know your stuff, but still come across as profoundly feminine.

Overall, I’ve come to accept that America has too complicated a relationship with powerful women to elect one president anytime soon.

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12 Nov 2021, 10:47 pm

cyberdad wrote:

DW_a_mom wrote:

Young adults feel she is giving them a voice. It’s a segment that needs to feel it has one. .

Minnesota is one of the most progressive states in the country, and one of two left-leaning states in the Midwest (the other being Illinois).

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13 Nov 2021, 1:25 am

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Eh, I think that's changing, I mean Sarah Palin in many ways blazed the trail that Trump would eventually march down, and I wouldn't call her profoundly feminine, her whole shtick was being the tough as nails hockey mom who could shoot and dress out a deer (and look good doing it), Lauren Boebert is seldom seen without her pistol on her hip, Winsome Sears just won statewide in Virginia running as a rough and tumble former Marine, and Ivanka Trump was never really a Republican anyway. I could totally see a brash female CEO (a real one this time) sweeping the GOP primary with tough talk and a touch of trolling, they'd go for it just to own the libs and elect a female president first.

DW_a_mom wrote:

Overall, I’ve come to accept that America has too complicated a relationship with powerful women to elect one president anytime soon.

It would certainly take a particular kind of powerful woman, Hilary just wasn't it, and let's not even start with Kamala. I kinda do feel like the GOP would have the advantage here, almost a Nixon goes to China kind of situation.

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