Kraichgauer
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11 Feb 2012, 2:03 pm
Longshanks wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But you know, I find myself hoping the nomination goes to someone as nuts and corrupt as the Gingrich who stole Christmas, or to Rick "the frothy substance that..." Santorum, so there will be zero chance of Obama losing. Right now, the Republicans are motivated by a hatred of Obama, and would nominate a McRibb sandwich if they thought it could beat him. Well, I can remember Bush Jr.'s run for a second term, and how the Democrats didn't care who they nominated, as long as they thought he could beat Bush. That's why a flawed candidate like John Kerry, who as I recall no one was really thrilled about anyway, was chosen. It didn't work for the Democrats then, and I don't think it'll help the Republicans this election.
i hope history repeats itself, like what happened to ford [who unfortunately was a genuinely decent man, and a republican outlier] when reagan dogged him all the way to the convention], and so weakens the republican nominee that the democrats can make short work of him. but i won't hold my breath, i have no faith in the american voting public. i still remember that english periodical [the daily mirror] with the headline, "how can 59,054,087 million people be so dumb?" i keep my expectations so low that any sign of electoral decency elicits pleasant surprise in me. but this wish is only fulfilled once per generation or so. it only happens once per generation that a populace decides to vote beyond provincial concerns.
Kraichgauer wrote:
By the way, I fully understand how a kind word now and then can lift one's spirits.
god bless you, sir
You know, I found myself asking myself that very same question voiced on the front page of The Daily Mirror back then.
H.L. Mencken didn't have a high regard for the American electorate, either; going as far as supporting Germany during the First World War, believing that Germany's hybrid government of a monarchy joined with parliamentary democracy was a superior system. Sometimes I think he just said and did things to piss everyone else off. But I digress...
The good news is, the economy is getting better, and I think Obama is ready to combat the culture war bull sh**, which is the only ammo the Republicans seem to have these days. While the bogeyman of gay marriage might have won Bush a second term, I think the country has grown up enough that that trick won't work this time. And on a personal level, while many Americans were swayed by the notion that Bush was the kind of guy they'd like to have a beer with, it's Obama who definitely has the likeability factor this time around. After all, who wants to be buddy buddy with a serial adulterer with narcissistic personality disorder, or with a religious extremist who wants to invade our bedrooms because he thinks the edicts of his religion (Latin Mass Catholic fundamentalism) applies to the rest of us.
I'm so far not to worried about Obama's chances - though the notion that a lot can happen before November admittedly chills me to the bone.
And God bless you too, sir.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Having served as an officer in the uniformed services, I find it distasteful when one political party gets slammed over another. They are both corrupt - period! If you think Obama is an angel - think again. What most people haven't figured out yet, I shall now point out with de-classified information that has been released to press but not shared.
The armed forces have been charged with assisting the DEA, FBI, and ATF with monitoring counter-drug activity over the US -Mxican Border. This is no secret. It is also no secret that under the posse comitadus laws (spelling?) that the Commander-in-Chief (Obama) must keep the military advised of all law enforcement operations and must set the criteria and limitations of military asistance so as to comply with the law. It is Obama's responsibility to brief the Secretary of Defense so that the directives may be properly carried out. Thus, if we knew about "Fast and Furious", so did the President. See where I'm going? Obama knew. What's more, it has come out through various e-mails that the reason for fast and furious was to create a scam to base further gun control on! And now you're seeing the biggest cover-up since Watergate!
Let's go one step further - look at the crony capitalism Obama himself condemns, yet he partakes in it with Solyndra ($550 Million lost), GM ($1 Billion lost), and Chrysler ($14 Billion Lost) - get real!
Democrats condemn Wall Street - yet look into who puts the most into their coffers - Wall Street and the unions. It's all a matter of public record.
Wake up, smell the coffee, and get real! They are ALL corrupt! And unlike you, I think Santorum is the lesser of all the evils. Yes he's corrupt - but he' been outdone by Obama alone by leaps and bounds! I won't even start on Reid and Pelosi. But I've watched their finances as well. In the civilian world I'm a law student, paralegal, and tax professional. White collar crime is a specialty of mine. I know how to follow the numbers and I do it well. The numbers don't lie!
The bottom line is simply this: They are all scum and they all need to go!
In fact, Fast And Furious had been instituted by the local - was it ATF? - office in New Mexico. Eric Holder - and thus Obama - only learned about that debacle after the fact.
I never said Obama was an absolute angel. And who knows - he may even be worse than I know. But as far as I'm concerned, he represents my interests and values in a way that Santorum or Gingrich never could.
And if you don't mind me saying, my guess is your political views are influenced by your affiliation with the Southern Baptists. Born Again evangelicals and fundamentalists have become way too political minded in the last few decades, allying themselves to the far right, even when that political philosophy is contrary to the Christian message.
Me, I'm a mainline Protestant - precisely, I belong to the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod. While by Lutheran standards, the Missouri Synod can come off as conservative, I should mention that I live in the Pacific Northwest, where Lutherans tend to be more of a moderate breed compared to our Midwestern counterparts (which more or less, my church's power structure lies). Our emphasis is on God's grace, earned for us by Christ's death and resurrection, but very rarely secular politics. In my home congregation, I know people along the whole political spectrum. There are very conservative people, while others are pretty liberal. Yet we're all friends, because we're in church to worship our God, not to hammer wordly politics down someone else' throats.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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12 Feb 2012, 3:05 am
auntblabby wrote:
Longshanks wrote:
They are both corrupt - period! If you think Obama is an angel - think again.
i am not so stupid that i ever considered any politician anything akin to an angel. i vote for the dems only because they consistently are less hostile to my working-class interests than the repubs, who over the decades have consistently voted against my interests. my enemy has consistently voted against health care reform of any type that would actually extend affordable and genuine health coverage to the working class- my enemy has consistently opposed gay rights [not to mention gay marriage]- my enemy has consistently promulgated the fiction of "trickle down" when anybody with the common sense of sea kelp knows that nothing in this life trickles down 'cept for rain and woes. i learned my lesson in 1980 when i stupidly voted for john anderson, throwing my vote away and indirectly helping the enemy of my class. never again. when a repub gets serious about staying the hell out of my bedroom, letting me marry the gender of my wishes, and reforming our totally inhumane health care non-delivery system into something universal and humane- only then would i change my mind about the greedy oligarch's pachyderm.
Amen, brother blabby!
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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