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Neighbours claim that he was always polite but became "more religious" a few years ago, and began to sport a beard, and wear "religious clothing". His father adds, "he's Muslim".
Well, DUH, thank you for that little heads-up, Mr. Obvious.
This is why gun control should be mandatory. Especially if you are a follower of the religion of peace (NO guns for you, if so, not even a hunting rifle).
So muslims should have less rights than everyone else?....because everyone knows only muslims can commit acts of gun violence or become extremists
In the world today, they do more so than ANY other religion or group.
People on the left need to stop being cowards and criticize Islam. Don't put it on a bloody pedestal. They criticize every other religion yet Islam and Muhammed are off limits.
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Neighbours claim that he was always polite but became "more religious" a few years ago, and began to sport a beard, and wear "religious clothing". His father adds, "he's Muslim".
Well, DUH, thank you for that little heads-up, Mr. Obvious.
This is why gun control should be mandatory. Especially if you are a follower of the religion of peace (NO guns for you, if so, not even a hunting rifle).
So muslims should have less rights than everyone else?....because everyone knows only muslims can commit acts of gun violence or become extremists
In the world today, they do more so than ANY other religion or group.
People on the left need to stop being cowards and criticize Islam. Don't put it on a bloody pedestal. They criticize every other religion yet Islam and Muhammed are off limits.
So you think systematic discrimination and limiting of rights of muslims across the board because of the actions of some is really going to solve anything and not in turn create many more problems of its own? Would that stop things like the guy who shot up that planned parenthood clinic....or this incident which as far as I've read they have not determined the motivation. Yes fighting hate with more hate and discrimination is a great idea....NOT.
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I never said I was in favor of ANY discrimination of Muslims. Being critical of their religion is not discrimination. Hell, I'm critical of my own religion (Catholicism) but that does not mean I'm being discriminatory towards anyone.
Calling BS out in a religion (such as honor killings, genital mutilation, child prides in Islam) is not being an antagonist.
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I guess in light of recent violence that wasn't even all carried out by muslims...racism is ok as long as its directed at arabs.
Also its funny how some of you here complain about how people negatively stereotype us on the spectrum, and shudder at the thought of the media jumping to conclusions about autism being the cause of mass shootings(which they do like to do sometimes)....Yet you'd call for systematic discrimination of another group of people. Am I not supposed to be disgusted or something.
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Calling BS out in a religion (such as honor killings, genital mutilation, child prides in Islam) is not being an antagonist.
my comment was about HisMom saying muslims specifically should not be allowed to own guns but people of other faiths/beliefs should. That would be discrimination to give muslims less rights than everyone else....If you don't support discrimination good.
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Calling BS out in a religion (such as honor killings, genital mutilation, child prides in Islam) is not being an antagonist.
my comment was about HisMom saying muslims specifically should not be allowed to own guns but people of other faiths/beliefs should. That would be discrimination to give muslims less rights than everyone else....If you don't support discrimination good.
I'm for background checks and better gun control. I'm not too familiar on gun politics in the States.
A persons religion should not disqualify them for owning a weapon.
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When this first happened I assumed it probably was an attack against the developmetaly disabled but while that still could be possible it does not like like that now.
Here are possible non autistic reasons that place could have been targeted.
The most obvoius it was just a soft target that happened to be there
It is a US government agency
If the suspects were radical Muslims as the evidence is pointing to, it was a Christmas party celebrating the main holiday of the unbelievers.
Fayeed worked as an environmental specialist so it could be Eco terrorism done by a person who happened to be Muslim.
Why San Bernadino not downtown LA?
They live there and were following ISIS orders to attack in place
If they are terrorists by definition they want to terrorize and just attacking the main cities will not scare most Americans who don't live there. Terrorists would want to make people think they kill them any time and any place. For those who remember the anthrax attacks most of the targets were high profile like Congress and NBC news but a women in the Bronx was murdered as was a widow of a judge in Oxford, Connecticut
Possible developmentally disabled related reason
Dissatisfied client be it a parent or developmentally disabled person who happened to be Muslim
My best quess is it was a homegrown radical jahidist following suggestions to attack in place and that place had the added "benefit" of bieng a government office. But that assumption could be as wrong as my original one. This was a unique attack in many ways so the answers may not come for some time and will no doubt be disputed.
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Did they actually have plates or just tactical vests. Because body armor is just plates in some kind of carrier. I own tactical vest but not any plates for it so it's not body armor. In past events people saw tac vest and assume it's body armor but then again they see black rifle and assume it's a fully auto assault rifle. Good plates are rather expensive which is why I'll likely never own any and most people don't either.
Doesn't look like they had armor on going by the bodies (at least 2 of the attackers; 1 woman and 1 man).
Doesn't seem like workplace violence -- that's usually a lone individual that doesn't have accomplices. Unless there was only 2 attackers and the wife was subservient.
Fits your standard terrorist attack without any twisting.
Quite strange logic...only in America!
Pretty sure the dudes [and dudette] in Paris could fly but couldn't buy AKs. Quite strange logic, but only in France!
Quite strange logic...only in America!
Pretty sure the dudes [and dudette] in Paris could fly but couldn't buy AKs. Quite strange logic, but only in France!
Yeah but they weren't being tracked by the French secret service
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