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15 Jan 2017, 5:15 am

and 30 million people will not longer be able to afford any health care as a result, which is just fine with the GOP.



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15 Jan 2017, 5:37 am

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and 30 million people will not longer be able to afford any health care as a result, which is just fine with the GOP.


I'm confused. He's making it less expensive.



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15 Jan 2017, 6:18 am

Replace it with WHAT? I have friends who rely on Obamacare, and whatever it is being replaced with better damn well be better.


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15 Jan 2017, 7:05 am

Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.



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15 Jan 2017, 7:22 am

EzraS wrote:
Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.

I hope he replaces it with something more affordable that provides at least the same level of service, if not better.


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15 Jan 2017, 7:41 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.

I hope he replaces it with something more affordable that provides at least the same level of service, if not better.


He's made it very clear that's what he intends to make happen.



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15 Jan 2017, 9:02 am

EzraS wrote:
Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.


He has talked a lot about what he wants to do, but there has been no details. That makes it scary, because people talk details when they want you to be confident in there plan, to show they have covered every possibility.

If they do not have those details, it implies poor or no planning.


One thing that I struggle with is why the cinservatives hate this plan.

It is basically the same plan Romney instituted in Mass, but as soon as Obama proposed it, they all hated it.

It is like the actually plan does not matter.



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15 Jan 2017, 9:16 am

EzraS wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.

I hope he replaces it with something more affordable that provides at least the same level of service, if not better.


He's made it very clear that's what he intends to make happen.

He hasn't. This is Trump we're talking about, he has a history of making promises without any real substance to back them up.


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15 Jan 2017, 11:38 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Trump has gone on and on about the premiums and deductibles being way too high with Obamacare, and that he going to replace it with a better plan for a lot less premium and a much lower deductible. So since he hasn't said anything different, that is what should be expected. And if he does well, maybe people can calm down a little abut the man.

I hope he replaces it with something more affordable that provides at least the same level of service, if not better.


He's made it very clear that's what he intends to make happen.

He hasn't. This is Trump we're talking about, he has a history of making promises without any real substance to back them up.


Well that's the other shoe that hasn't dropped yet. Right now I just know what's been stated by him several times and backed up by Ryan a couple of days ago. It's what I'm hoping for because I know some who need that kind of break.



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15 Jan 2017, 4:13 pm

EzraS wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
and 30 million people will not longer be able to afford any health care as a result, which is just fine with the GOP.


I'm confused. He's making it less expensive.

be aware that the man is a known prevaricator.



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23 Jan 2017, 11:15 am

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Because that's the only reason anyone could ever have for opposing abortion.

Could it not be that, when someone says abortion is murder, they *actually believe it*? I know, it's a stretch. I still think listening to people's explanations for why they oppose something can help one discern why they oppose that thing.


Yea ... but at least they would have had a choice still. I mean its not like someone is twisting your arm and saying that you HAVE to kill your baby. But really now who has any kinda right to tell THAT female what to do? Say that woman was brutally raped by 20 guys and now she's stuck with a child that she doesn't know who the father is. Between the pregnancy and the delivery room all of it is gonna be a harsh reminder of the traumatic experience that will take her 9 months more to properly move on from.