At least 17 dead in Florida School Shooting

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I am sorry, I was talking to kraftiekortie, not you.

That's not how it works. If you want exclusive conversations take it to PM.

Very cute. And here is a kōan for you.

A monk asked Jōshū, "Having heard for a long time about the stone bridge of Jōshū, when I come here I see only a simple log bridge." Jōshū said, "You see only the log bridge, you don't see the stone bridge." The monk said, "What is the stone bridge?" Jōshū said, "It lets donkeys cross, it lets horses cross."

Surfing around, I've read variations on this theme...

Cruz was adopted..
Autistic
Picked on and marginalized in school, then expelled
Father died
Mother died
History of depression and whatever other psychiatric diagnosis he has had tacked on.

Vegas odds the kid dodges the death penalty, dodge prison and gets psychiatric treatment until he's sane enough to let loose spa John Hinckley.

His lawyer is very smart to use Autism as a defense. If Cruz was average NT kid that snapped, he'd be looking at the death penalty.

Yeesh. That's pretty chilling.

So ... they used the autism defense in order to save this guy ... but this is probably going to drag the entire autistic community down.

What if we lived in a sane world? They wouldn't need to use the autism defense because there would be no death penalty.

To be honest, this is probably what happens in the vast majority of "autistic shootings". The autism diagnosis comes not from a doctor, but from an attorney.

Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old man suspected of killing at least 17 people at a Florida high school, had participated in paramilitary training with a white nationalist militia called the Republic of Florida, the militia's leader said on Thursday, though law officials denined there was any confirmed link between the two.

"He had some involvement with the Clearwater Republic of Florida cell at some point," Jordan Jereb said in a telephone interview about the suspected shooter, Nikolas Cruz.

Jereb, the Republic of Florida militia leader, told The Associated Press that he did not know Cruz personally and that "he acted on his own behalf" and is "solely responsible for what he just did."

A law enforcement official says he knows of "no known ties" between the suspect who confessed to the deadly mass shooting and the white supremacist group.

Lt. Grady Jordan is a spokesman for the Leon County Sheriff's Office in Tallahassee, where the white nationalist militia known as the Republic of Florida is based. Jordan said Thursday that his office has arrested militia leader Jordan Jereb at least four times since January 2014 and has been monitoring the group's membership.

He says his office has "very solid" information on the group and "there's no known ties that we have that we can connect" Cruz with the group that wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state.

Jereb said his organization holds "spontaneous random demonstrations" and tries not to participate in the modern world. He also said Cruz had "trouble with a girl" and that he believed the timing of the attack, on Valentine's Day, was not a coincidenc

Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old who confessed to the school shooting at a Florida high school this week, reportedly expressed racist and violent views in a private social media chat group.

Cruz, a former student at the school who was expelled for behavioral issues, regularly shared racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic views with at least five other participants in the Instagram chat group, according to a CNN report on Friday.

CNN said it was added to the group while investigating Cruz’s online activity.

"I hate jews, ni**ers, immigrants,” Cruz reportedly wrote in the group, which he had named “Murica (American flag emoji) (eagle emoji) great.”

In the span of hundreds of messages, Cruz openly discussed killing people and specifically referred to killing Mexicans, Jews, gay people and black people, according to CNN.

"Shoot them in the back of head,” he reportedly wrote in reference to gay people. He also espoused a disdain for white women, particularly if they were in interracial relationships.

Cruz, who was adopted, also wrote in the chat, "My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her," CNN reported.

Law enforcement have said they have found no evidence of a connection between Cruz and any white supremacist group.

what was this kid doing with so many weapons??

history repeating itself

I'm sure this will help..

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/stev ... fc31920371

It's not that thoughts & prayers are bad; it's that they don't stop bullets.

I'm sure this will help..

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/stev ... fc31920371

It's not that thoughts & prayers are bad; it's that they don't stop bullets.

Is he serious? prayers to prevent mass shooting!
These guys will say anything to stop them losing their precious guns

A common denominator with American mass shooters Adam Lanza, Dylann Roof, Omar Mateen, Nikolas Cruz, Devin Kelley and Stephen Paddock.
All used the AR15 assault rifle
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02 ... need-know/

Perhaps god will help Americans help themselves (to borrow the famous line) when they first outlaw that particular killing machine

Not surprising. I was listening to a Faux News report on it late last night and they kept describing him as having been completely ostracized by his classmates.. total anti-social loner w/o any friends. Just their general descriptions of him indicated he has some severe social problems.

And maybe, for him, that was reason enough to kill.. being frustrated with no one liking him and all that. I GET how that can be frustrating as f**k, but IMO it's nothing to murder over. Be frustrated, angry, depressed, and all that? Sure. Life's not fun like that. But murder? Naaaah. I know if I were a completely lone wolf type if I felt even the slightest chance of that becoming a real possibility I'd be the type to isolate myself vs. endanger others. Obviously this guy wasn't and he went on a full on murderous rampage as if it's somehow those other peoples' fault that he's different.

Probably his adoptive mother dying recently could have been a trigger---don't you think?

Sounds like Valentine's Day was a trigger. The kids at school were warning girls off due to his violence and abusive behaviour towards girls. He knows he's never getting any.
I read an article that drew parallels between mass shooters and misogyny.