Joined: 14 Jun 2009 Age: 43 Gender: Male Posts: 3,178 Location: Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada
20 Jan 2019, 8:17 pm
sly279 wrote:
Sad we live in a world where expressing your fee speech in wearing a hat gets you harrasssed, insulted, attacked and labeled a racist.
Which is also part of free speech.
EzraS wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.
Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."
Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.
But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.
The MSM are clearly liars.
VegetableMan wrote:
Another perspective on the incident.
As I suspected there was more to this than was presented. Good research guys.
Seem like you don't outright reject CNN when you see it as on "your side"
Daniel89 wrote:
AspE wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
How do you not understand that the old guy got in his face? The old guy tried intimidating him and the kid just stood there and smiled. That is not showing enough respect? How about he respect the kids personal space?
I bet that kid can run a play in football, there's no excuse for standing there smiling like an idiot, trying to show off your bigotry to your friends.
No excuse for standing where you were already standing?
Oh he had the audacity to smile did he what a f*****g monster.
It seem that peoples generally consider him having a smug smile, and on that NTs are better than us to see such things. (I do see his smile as "smug")
I want to make sure I understand the logic. Is the example I gave a correct usage of it?
Murderous hatred of counter-revolutionaries. Not always unjustified.
I understand that you're making a comment, but it doesn't answer my question about whether my application of the logic is correct or incorrect. My question remains unanswered.
We need to stop focusing on that one kid. Young people can't always be held responsible for their actions. Where were the Catholic school adults here? It seems like it would be a learning opportunity, and became a failure of leadership.
I want to make sure I understand the logic. Is the example I gave a correct usage of it?
Murderous hatred of counter-revolutionaries. Not always unjustified.
I understand that you're making a comment, but it doesn't answer my question about whether my application of the logic is correct or incorrect. My question remains unanswered.
Yes, the people that wear a Che t-shirt advocate murderous rage in the context of certain extreme political upheavals.
I want to make sure I understand the logic. Is the example I gave a correct usage of it?
Murderous hatred of counter-revolutionaries. Not always unjustified.
I understand that you're making a comment, but it doesn't answer my question about whether my application of the logic is correct or incorrect. My question remains unanswered.
Yes, the people that wear a Che t-shirt advocate murderous rage in the context of certain extreme political upheavals.
I disagree. It's not possible to know exactly why every person who wears a Che t shirt wears the shirt. Che means more and different things to different people than just to "advocate murderous rage in the context of certain extreme political upheavals."
Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Gender: Male Posts: 27,828 Location: Twin Peaks
20 Jan 2019, 8:45 pm
Tollorin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sad we live in a world where expressing your fee speech in wearing a hat gets you harrasssed, insulted, attacked and labeled a racist.
Which is also part of free speech.
EzraS wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.
Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."
Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.
But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.
The MSM are clearly liars.
VegetableMan wrote:
Another perspective on the incident.
As I suspected there was more to this than was presented. Good research guys.
Seem like you don't outright reject CNN when you see it as on "your side"
I don't have a side. But often there's more to a story then what's first presented. And yes I do tend to question things rather than just accept something at face value.
Why am I always having to talk about myself instead of the topic?
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Age: 36 Gender: Male Posts: 16,181 Location: US
20 Jan 2019, 10:36 pm
Tollorin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Sad we live in a world where expressing your fee speech in wearing a hat gets you harrasssed, insulted, attacked and labeled a racist.
Which is also part of free speech.
EzraS wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
Not true. The kid was just standing there when the old guy started banging the drum in his face and chanting.
The kid was a MAGA white supremacist who shows no respect for anyone other than mite males. That he would show such disrespect to an elder and a veteran, shows how truly idiotic this MAGA types really are.
Maybe you should do some research. Those Native Americans were yelling at the kids and telling them to "go back to Europe."
Imagine a white guy saying "go back to Africa" to a black man. That person would get called out by the media for sure.
But here we have some high school kids in MAGA hats minding their own business. Some Indian comes up banging a drum and chanting at them. Somehow it's the kids' fault.
The MSM are clearly liars.
VegetableMan wrote:
Another perspective on the incident.
As I suspected there was more to this than was presented. Good research guys.
Seem like you don't outright reject CNN when you see it as on "your side"
Daniel89 wrote:
AspE wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
How do you not understand that the old guy got in his face? The old guy tried intimidating him and the kid just stood there and smiled. That is not showing enough respect? How about he respect the kids personal space?
I bet that kid can run a play in football, there's no excuse for standing there smiling like an idiot, trying to show off your bigotry to your friends.
No excuse for standing where you were already standing?
Oh he had the audacity to smile did he what a f*****g monster.
It seem that peoples generally consider him having a smug smile, and on that NTs are better than us to see such things. (I do see his smile as "smug")
I disagree. It's not possible to know exactly why every person who wears a Che t shirt wears the shirt. Che means more and different things to different people than just to "advocate murderous rage in the context of certain extreme political upheavals."
Totally irrelevant. Wearing a Hitler shirt means you advocate genocide and it doesn't matter if you just say he had a cool mustache.
Apparently, the Black Israelites and the MAGATWATS were in an escalating confrontation, and the natives stepped in between to de-escalate the situation with chanting and music. Probably saved that kid's life.
Which makes that old man kind of like Jesus.
WOW
He's saying that now he has been caught out.
Mob VS native elder, and now they are the victim.
Just go to hell.
Not a mob. A bunch of teenage boys waiting for a bus. The adult man may have been elderly but he was an adult. An adult who violated the personal space of a boy to intimidate him. The only Mob here is the online Mob attempting to ruin the life of a child.
Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Gender: Male Posts: 27,828 Location: Twin Peaks
21 Jan 2019, 2:41 am
"The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.
I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.
I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand."
"The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.
I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers."
We all know if it was an old white man behaving like this towards native American children, all these people attacking the white kid would be attacking the old white man in that scenario.
Joined: 24 Sep 2013 Gender: Male Posts: 27,828 Location: Twin Peaks
21 Jan 2019, 2:49 am
I agree that if you switch around the age, ethnicity and gender of the two involved, the scenario would be viewed differently. Really I think just removing the maga hat, would change the scenario.
20 Jan 2019, 8:10 pm
