10 Feb 2019, 4:44 am
10 Feb 2019, 5:03 am
goldfish21 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
You know all they did was ask for a full birth certificate - which took a long time to surface as I recall. Which is why it became a big deal.
The point of pointing out people bringing up Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ted Cruse, is that the natural-born resident issue hasn't been limited to non-white countries.
The point of pointing out people bringing up Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ted Cruse, is that the natural-born resident issue hasn't been limited to non-white countries.
Obama didn't present his birth certificate immediately because the people demanding to see it were pushing a ridiculous, racially based conspiracy theory, devoid of any legitimate reason. Such a demand on any President would in itself be demeaning, especially since the whole reason behind it was because Obama was black.
But if you're so eager to defend the birthers, are you willing to say that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and insist that Trump release his tax returns? Because there's definite legal ramifications here.
I'm not defending anyone. I am stating the fact that the natural-born citizen clause has been an issue regarding other politicians. And I don't care whether or not Trump releases his tax returns.
Why not?
Do you not see the potential for conflicts of interest?
Let me rephrase, I'm not eager or excited or worried etc.
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10 Feb 2019, 2:35 pm
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goldfish21 wrote:
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What system are you proposing?
Are you being obtuse? A constitutional republic not based on bribery would be nice.
Yes, but I'd like to know what I can do now in the system we currently have.
I assure you, I'm actually asking because politics are far from my area of expertise.
Basically, you could move to Canada. It's not perfect here, but there's far less f**kery than the political game of very expensive smoke & mirrors that plays out in your country non-stop.
I honestly wish I could.
The other day I was watching TV and a commercial for a furniture store came on, only it wasn't just a "furniture" store, it was a "furniture and gun store."
The announcer was going on about how you could come pick up a nice, new couch for your family, and load-up on ammo on your way out.
I thought to myself, "I really wish I lived in a country where this kind of crap isn't even remotely normal."
Is it technically/legally possible for you to immigrate to Canada? Or do you have a diagnosis & limitations that exclude you like auntblabby says he does?
If it is possible, our labour market is red hot and we're giving out work permits to foreigners EVERY DAY for all kinds of industries, not just very high tech/doctors etc. Labourers, cooks, customer service people in fast food places in small towns that have difficulty attracting people away from the bigger cities etc. Some of them are a pretty good deal, too. Fair wage + a place to live provided kind of thing.
I have a relative that works for Canada Customs & Immigration and sees the paperwork for these things almost every day. If someone is eligible to come to Canada, there are ample opportunities to work here. In the bigger cities, too, but all over the place. And for some, a small town w/ very little stress might be much more suitable, anyways.
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10 Feb 2019, 2:43 pm
XFilesGeek wrote:
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Ezra and GF,
Please stop with the personal attacks. Constantly speculating on somebody's "deficits" can be considered a personal attack.
Respond to the argument, not the person making it.
[/MOD]
Ezra and GF,
Please stop with the personal attacks. Constantly speculating on somebody's "deficits" can be considered a personal attack.
Respond to the argument, not the person making it.
[/MOD]
It was not a personal attack. If it was it would have been brutally obvious since I am honest as the day is long. It was, once again, a legitimate observation of someone's posts here. With a history of defending racism with devil's advocate posts, I legitimately wonder if he's incapable of discerning when something is racially motivated. That's it, that's all. How is that a personal attack?
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10 Feb 2019, 2:47 pm
XFilesGeek wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
AspE wrote:
What system are you proposing?
Are you being obtuse? A constitutional republic not based on bribery would be nice.
Yes, but I'd like to know what I can do now in the system we currently have.
I assure you, I'm actually asking because politics are far from my area of expertise.
Basically, you could move to Canada. It's not perfect here, but there's far less f**kery than the political game of very expensive smoke & mirrors that plays out in your country non-stop.
I honestly wish I could.
The other day I was watching TV and a commercial for a furniture store came on, only it wasn't just a "furniture" store, it was a "furniture and gun store."
The announcer was going on about how you could come pick up a nice, new couch for your family, and load-up on ammo on your way out.
I thought to myself, "I really wish I lived in a country where this kind of crap isn't even remotely normal."
Is it technically/legally possible for you to immigrate to Canada? Or do you have a diagnosis & limitations that exclude you like auntblabby says he does?
If it is possible, our labour market is red hot and we're giving out work permits to foreigners EVERY DAY for all kinds of industries, not just very high tech/doctors etc. Labourers, cooks, customer service people in fast food places in small towns that have difficulty attracting people away from the bigger cities etc. Some of them are a pretty good deal, too. Fair wage + a place to live provided kind of thing.
I have a relative that works for Canada Customs & Immigration and sees the paperwork for these things almost every day. If someone is eligible to come to Canada, there are ample opportunities to work here. In the bigger cities, too, but all over the place. And for some, a small town w/ very little stress might be much more suitable, anyways.
I'm not sure.
I'm not familiar enough with Canada's immigration policies, but I'm DXed as autistic, and ADHD, and I take care of my physically disabled mother, so I doubt I'd be a likely candidate.
I'm not sure if your DX would exclude you or not, it'd require some research. Your mother would very likely be excluded, though. Canada is a corporation like any other country, and we don't invite people to come join our team who can't work and pay taxes, basically. The only way she would ever join you here is if you were able to get in first, then via our stupid lottery system, somehow luck out some year and get a permit to bring her here via family reunification And the ability to pay to support her. Something like that.
The more fit for work that's in demand people are, the easier it is to come here. Skilled labour, younger adult age so you can pay taxes for a long time, speak English etc etc. A 25yo plumber would have an easier time coming here than say a 60yo homemaker.
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goldfish21 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
[MOD]
Ezra and GF,
Please stop with the personal attacks. Constantly speculating on somebody's "deficits" can be considered a personal attack.
Respond to the argument, not the person making it.
[/MOD]
Ezra and GF,
Please stop with the personal attacks. Constantly speculating on somebody's "deficits" can be considered a personal attack.
Respond to the argument, not the person making it.
[/MOD]
It was not a personal attack. If it was it would have been brutally obvious since I am honest as the day is long. It was, once again, a legitimate observation of someone's posts here. With a history of defending racism with devil's advocate posts, I legitimately wonder if he's incapable of discerning when something is racially motivated. That's it, that's all. How is that a personal attack?
Just please avoid making personal "observations" about Ezra, as that tends to spark conflict, and then we have to close the thread.
Thanks.
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10 Feb 2019, 3:05 pm
XFilesGeek wrote:
Just please avoid making personal "observations" about Ezra, as that tends to spark conflict, and then we have to close the thread.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Every reply to every post are replies to their personal opinions & personalities. Threads are supposed to die with the OP now?
This doesn't make sense.We're not allowed to mention who we are talking about? I am 100% certain I've read MANY posts referencing me, and I'm fine with it. Is there some forum rule that says we can't include usernames when we're talking about someone's posts? It has to just be generic like "Forum members with a history of playing devils advocate when it comes to issues of racism & race relations may not be able to discern when something is racially motivated." Is that how I'm supposed to make posts that are very obviously referring to a specific user who has this particular posting history? With ever more new unwritten rules it's beginning to feel like walking on eggshells around here. Can't post anything about others' posts or refer to them by name = wtf?
I'm seriously confused by this as it makes no sense whatsoever - Just as it would make no sense to me to tell others they can't comment on my posts, opinions, or personality. I'm Not being hypocritical here in the least bit & prefer open dialogue vs. restricted nonsense.
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