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01 Mar 2022, 1:03 am

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What is happening in Ukraine shouldn't happen.

Thanks.
You saying it does matter to me :heart:


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01 Mar 2022, 1:38 am

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Both northern Ukraine and Belarus were part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania for centuries, as "Red Ruthenia" and "White Ruthenia" respectively. The Grand Duchy was famous for its religeous tolerance, and had a huge Jewish population. When Russia seized those lands in the late 18th century, they aggressively erased their history, declaring that Belarus and Ukraine had always been part of Russia, and that there was absolutely no difference between Ruthenians and Russians. The region was used as a dumping ground for Jews from the rest of Russia: the "pale of settlement" beyond which they had no right of residency. There, they became prime targets for pogroms, and later for the invading Nazis.


Ok that makes sense, The Russians claiming a historical/ethnic/religious claim to the lands.



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01 Mar 2022, 1:44 am

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", in Medieval European sense. No one cared what language you spoke, it mattered which nobleman you served and which king this nobleman was loyal to. It was always an extremely complex structure of dependencies and alliances, regularily crossing ethnic barriers..


Does this only apply to this region of eastern Europe though? In medieval England King Ethelred wiped out the entire population of Danes living in eastern Britain. The Danes he murdered were colonists who were fluent in Anglo-Saxon and mixed into the English population.

Lots of other examples too.



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01 Mar 2022, 2:07 am

As I feared the local Ukrainians are showing their true colours toward PoC living in Ukraine
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -of-color/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ ... 950969e267

Worse still the media coverage of Ukrainian refugees is showing journalists covering the exodus of refugees are just as bad
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -criticism

Sorry, Ukrainians get no sympathy from me any longer, Now I understand why the neo-Nazi Azov battation has so much support in Ukraine.



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01 Mar 2022, 2:14 am

Sanction Russia...but also Sanction Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/60561669

They are both evil



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01 Mar 2022, 2:18 am

cyberdad wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/60561669
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Di BBC don hear reports from foreign pipo of colour wey say dem no allow de menta trains and dem hold dem for border while dem allow Ukrain pipo to pass first.

Why is this article written in that strange way?
What happened to BBC?


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01 Mar 2022, 2:21 am

magz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/60561669
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Di BBC don hear reports from foreign pipo of colour wey say dem no allow de menta trains and dem hold dem for border while dem allow Ukrain pipo to pass first.

Why is this article written in that strange way?
What happened to BBC?


The same thing that's happened to a lot of mainstream media.



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01 Mar 2022, 2:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
As I feared the local Ukrainians are showing their true colours toward PoC living in Ukraine
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -of-color/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ ... 950969e267

Worse still the media coverage of Ukrainian refugees is showing journalists covering the exodus of refugees are just as bad
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -criticism

Sorry, Ukrainians get no sympathy from me any longer, Now I understand why the neo-Nazi Azov battation has so much support in Ukraine.


Binary nonsense.
You can't blame all Ukrainians for the racism of some.
You can't blame all Russians for what pootin is doing.
You can't blame all Germans for what happened to the Jews.
You can't blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the native Australians.

Now, go stand in the corner and think about what you have said. :evil: :mrgreen:



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01 Mar 2022, 2:27 am

cyberdad wrote:
Sanction Russia...but also Sanction Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/60561669

They are both evil


Schnapps or wodka? :scratch:



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01 Mar 2022, 2:29 am

magz wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/60561669
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Di BBC don hear reports from foreign pipo of colour wey say dem no allow de menta trains and dem hold dem for border while dem allow Ukrain pipo to pass first.

Why is this article written in that strange way?
What happened to BBC?


Are you suggesting you doubt they are genuine articles?



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01 Mar 2022, 2:30 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
As I feared the local Ukrainians are showing their true colours toward PoC living in Ukraine
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -of-color/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ ... 950969e267

Worse still the media coverage of Ukrainian refugees is showing journalists covering the exodus of refugees are just as bad
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -criticism

Sorry, Ukrainians get no sympathy from me any longer, Now I understand why the neo-Nazi Azov battation has so much support in Ukraine.


Binary nonsense.
You can't blame all Ukrainians for the racism of some.
You can't blame all Russians for what pootin is doing.
You can't blame all Germans for what happened to the Jews.
You can't blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the native Australians.

Now, go stand in the corner and think about what you have said. :evil: :mrgreen:

Well, by the logic above, we should have sanctioned literally every country.

There are wrongdoings that need to be adressed but freaking not by an invasion and shelling cities!


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01 Mar 2022, 2:36 am

The media is also pathetic





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01 Mar 2022, 2:39 am

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The media is also pathetic


And you are surprised why? 8O



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01 Mar 2022, 2:39 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
As I feared the local Ukrainians are showing their true colours toward PoC living in Ukraine
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -of-color/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ ... 950969e267

Worse still the media coverage of Ukrainian refugees is showing journalists covering the exodus of refugees are just as bad
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -criticism

Sorry, Ukrainians get no sympathy from me any longer, Now I understand why the neo-Nazi Azov battation has so much support in Ukraine.


Binary nonsense.
You can't blame all Ukrainians for the racism of some.
You can't blame all Russians for what pootin is doing.
You can't blame all Germans for what happened to the Jews.
You can't blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the native Australians.

Now, go stand in the corner and think about what you have said. :evil: :mrgreen:

Well, by the logic above, we should have sanctioned literally every country.

There are wrongdoings that need to be adressed but freaking not by an invasion and shelling cities!



Nigeria and South Africa trying to intervene to help their foreign nationals stranded in Ukraine.
https://www.news24.com/news24/africa/ne ... e-20220228

Ukraine isn't going to win a popularity contest with African counties



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01 Mar 2022, 2:41 am

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The media is also pathetic


And you are surprised why? 8O


The journos can't control their emotions.



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01 Mar 2022, 2:41 am

cyberdad wrote:
magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
As I feared the local Ukrainians are showing their true colours toward PoC living in Ukraine
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/conten ... -of-color/
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/ ... 950969e267

Worse still the media coverage of Ukrainian refugees is showing journalists covering the exodus of refugees are just as bad
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -criticism

Sorry, Ukrainians get no sympathy from me any longer, Now I understand why the neo-Nazi Azov battation has so much support in Ukraine.


Binary nonsense.
You can't blame all Ukrainians for the racism of some.
You can't blame all Russians for what pootin is doing.
You can't blame all Germans for what happened to the Jews.
You can't blame all non-indigenous Australians for what happened to the native Australians.

Now, go stand in the corner and think about what you have said. :evil: :mrgreen:

Well, by the logic above, we should have sanctioned literally every country.

There are wrongdoings that need to be adressed but freaking not by an invasion and shelling cities!



Nigeria and South Africa trying to intervene to help their foreign nationals stranded in Ukraine.
https://www.news24.com/news24/africa/ne ... e-20220228

Ukraine isn't going to win a popularity content with African counties


Ukraine may not last long.
Will that satisfy you?
Sounds like it. 8)