50 police officers give chase!

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I just wanna know who the heck authorized 50 police officers on this it's a total waste to send that many they could have easily chased them down with 5-10 and switched out any that got damaged cars as they went along. Why the heck was it okay for that many cops to go after one vehicle with two people and chase it that far while leaving all the other areas they'd be patrolling unattended or at best very under patrolled...

A cop was shot, so they went all Blue Brothers on the folks who did it. It's actually quite common, though stupid to say the least.

Yeah that is what I figured, they seem to really work hard when a cop has something bad happen they go nuts from over working. Not saying they don't care the rest of the time but the difference and the way they treat people who kill a cop vs anyone else is just too much like a gang. You killed my fellow member now were all gonna hunt you down for it! I'm actually extremely surprised it ended with them still alive somehow, either someone made sure they stayed alive or they are extremely lucky b/c I doubt many of those cops bothered to hold back on the bullets...

I don't get why helicopters aren't used. Maybe I'm naive but I just don't see why they don't hang back and act like they lost them, let the copter guys see where they went, and then close in on them there. I suppose that would be risky, but considering the risks they take giving chase, I would think they might give it some thought.

It's a deterrent. Cop killers must be immediately apprehended and made an example of. It is not uncommon to hear criminals say they are averse to shooting officers because of this. If they didn't do this and the criminals lost this attitude, then there would be far more officer deaths leading to a more lawless society. There would also be far fewer people willing to take up the honorable profession of law enforcement.

I'd argue that the implementation of punishment outside of the legal framework of due process IS lawlessness, so cops using excessive force against a suspect as punitive action for harming one of their own is something that should be strongly discouraged, or, preferably, outright punished.

Well alot of the time they are already in the air by the time of the chase and also they can't follow threw trees and tunnels in the daylight as far as I know they have night vision and high powered light beams for night searches though. Plus it costs alot of money to have one of those and fly it around. Mostly though they probably just wanted to kill them and the helicopter would make it harder to do b/c it's easier to catch them alive.

someone said (sorry, can't see who from where i'm writing) "it's not uncommon for criminals to voice..."

how do you know this? you actually know many criminals and have heard it for yourself, or you're related to an officer who's heard it? or is it something you've read somewhere?

i ask because i've never heard *anyone* say it, and tho i'm no criminal myself, i have most definitely known some, probably because i'm poor and urban.

but then, maybe they had no reason to bring it up while i was around. still, i'm wondering where you got that idea. sincerely wondering, not trying to be rude.

This chase closed the road from where I live to Phoenix. While it isn't barren country, there also is not much out there beyond five to eight miles from where the original shooting occurred. Also, in that area there is tremendous overlap between three county police departments, the DPS agency, US Forest Service, with some military grounds in the general area as well as proximity to the Indian reservation which could easily lead to the duplication of efforts. Is it overkill? Somewhat, but it also was an area with myriad paths, trails and dirt roads that divert off of the main road that could have led to their assessment leading to such massive pursuit.


M.

It's never offensive to ask someone for their sources. More people should do so. We'd have a much better informed populace as a result. People claim all kinds of wild things.

You might say I used to have some previous "inside information" on the subject, although that was over twenty years and a "colorful past" ago now. If you seek a more verifiable source, I heard this espoused on a more recently seen episode of Gangland (a television series). Unfortunately, I started watching this one in the middle and the episode title escapes me. It was dealing with motorcycle gangs. They would much rather kill each other. I also recall a reference on a 20/20 investigation circa the early Geraldo Rivera era.

But of course does happen and of course there are exceptions. Some gangs may make cop killing into a badge of honor, even though there are few members who have truly "gotten away with it". People rat each other out. Be wary of what you hear on the street. This is mostly braggadocio and boasting. Most younger offenders talk a big talk but might behave differently when risking their life while looking down a barrel at an officer. It's usually the "older and wiser" survivalists that will discuss things on this level.

for this, your personal verification is gold imho. the other thing good too, but nothing beats personal experience when the subject is "illigitimate."

i used to edit books, and i have a degree in journalism, so it's ingrained in me when i hear a claim to say, "now, is that actually so, or urban myth?" and then ask about it.

it's rare i get an answer, tho, so this is most appreciated. and you're sooooo right that if more ppl asked that stuff, more people would be informed. more often, tho, folks feel threatened, they think you're calling them a liar or whatever. ie, their ego trumps actual information. i find this frustrating, but little can be done except to try to defuse it before it starts.

@vipera aspis

and yeah, you're right about the bragging, lol.

The individual involved (shooter) is actually a local in the town where I live; feedback from other residents is generally that of shock and disbelief. Have not read too much about it, as honestly am a bit overwhelmed with news right now.


M.