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12 Feb 2010, 9:21 pm

Well, at the very least, no students where involved.

the way schools in general react to these shootings confounds me:
"Hey, a student shot up a school because it was an oppressive, conformist environment that made them feel worthless!"

"Really? We should increase security, add a bunch of pointless rules, put security cameras everywhere, and generally treat our students like human offal to prevent this from ever happening again!"

I mean seriously?

maybe, since no students where involved, the schools won't overreact.

I doubt it though.



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12 Feb 2010, 9:33 pm

Tensu wrote:
Well, at the very least, no students where involved.

the way schools in general react to these shootings confounds me:
"Hey, a student shot up a school because it was an oppressive, conformist environment that made them feel worthless!"

"Really? We should increase security, add a bunch of pointless rules, put security cameras everywhere, and generally treat our students like human offal to prevent this from ever happening again!"

I mean seriously?

maybe, since no students where involved, the schools won't overreact.

I doubt it though.


Well there was a bomb threat at a high school near my old hometown this morning and they actually closed the school. Okay, there's got to be something incredibly suspicious about a bomb threat being reported at 7:45 in the morning (around or before school starts) and the weather is like 10*F outside on a FRIDAY!

Something tells me that whoever made that bomb threat wanted school to get cancelled today for whatever reason.

I just couldnt believe that they shut down school. After Columbine, my high school was considered like 1st or 2nd most likely school in the state to have a copycat massacre and I do remember us getting a bomb threat cuz my friend called her mother and cried to her to take her out of school for that day. They didnt shut down the school despite the post Columbine fears.



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12 Feb 2010, 9:36 pm

It;s a good thing that the injury/death toll was very minimal.

And, of course, there's going to be those same idiots who will blame this on the teaching of evolution. :roll:



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13 Feb 2010, 8:54 am

with this, nor did student oppression...the shooter was a Harvard-educated professor denied tenure. This was workplace violence.



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14 Feb 2010, 9:16 pm

Yeah, I taught at the Shelby center as a Teaching assistant. The school sucked for disability services, part of the reason I flunked my classes and lived a terrible 5 months that semester... wound up moving back to Ohio after that. Not fun at all. BTW... Its the University of Alabama in HUNTSVILLE. I went there for a semester to study astrophysics back in the fall of 2008.

Anyway, yeah, that was nuts. I actually had to call people down there to make sure they were OK.

Anyway... in an effort to motivate you to be prepared, you should know that I wouldn't rule out that homicidal b***h being an Aspie, or at least being diagnosed with Asperger's. Just fair warning. If she is, just be prepared for backlash against us.


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15 Feb 2010, 1:11 am

In recent years students have pulled guns and blasted their fellow students.

Now we halve a professor shooting other professors.

Can we hope that politicians will thin out their numbers by shooting each other?



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15 Feb 2010, 1:32 am

What was weird is that she killed her brother with a shotgun reportedly by accident. Plus it's weird that she couldn't remember the incident after it happened. I would imagine that trying to get tenure would be very stressful, but at the same time just because someone didn't get tenure doesn't make it ok to shoot people. Everyone fails sometimes, and now ,because she took her frustration out in the form of shooting people, she probably won't get any professorship for the rest of her life.


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15 Feb 2010, 1:48 am

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What was weird is that she killed her brother with a shotgun reportedly by accident. Plus it's weird that she couldn't remember the incident after it happened. I would imagine that trying to get tenure would be very stressful, but at the same time just because someone didn't get tenure doesn't make it ok to shoot people. Everyone fails sometimes, and now ,because she took her frustration out in the form of shooting people, she probably won't get any professorship for the rest of her life.


Well no she won't because she will be in jail. The joke is that now there will be lots of vacancies in her department because she shot most of the teaching staff.



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15 Feb 2010, 9:24 pm

she may get tenured for life at Tutweiler women's prison



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16 Feb 2010, 2:34 am

I'm a little perturbed by all the second guessing now going on, every time a tragedy happens someone has to be found to take the blame, whether that's truly appropriate or not. It's disturbing to me the number of times I've heard that the school shouldn't have hired someone with this lady's "background", which is two incidents in which she wasn't charged with any crime. A cornerstone of the criminal justice system is supposed to be that if you're not convicted of a crime that's the end of it, but it would seem that some people think an accusation is as good as a conviction. Hopefully nothing will come of this search for a scapegoat, since the actual responsible party is already being brought to justice.



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16 Feb 2010, 5:39 am

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Yeah, I taught at the Shelby center as a Teaching assistant. The school sucked for disability services, part of the reason I flunked my classes and lived a terrible 5 months that semester... wound up moving back to Ohio after that. Not fun at all. BTW... Its the University of Alabama in HUNTSVILLE. I went there for a semester to study astrophysics back in the fall of 2008.

Anyway, yeah, that was nuts. I actually had to call people down there to make sure they were OK.

Anyway... in an effort to motivate you to be prepared, you should know that I wouldn't rule out that homicidal b***h being an Aspie, or at least being diagnosed with Asperger's. Just fair warning. If she is, just be prepared for backlash against us.


No worries there...the right wing sites are not mentioning AS at all at least...On a right wing Canadian site, they have her labelled "the ANTI-LEPINE".
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16 Feb 2010, 12:09 pm

skywatcher wrote:
Yeah, I taught at the Shelby center as a Teaching assistant. The school sucked for disability services, part of the reason I flunked my classes and lived a terrible 5 months that semester... wound up moving back to Ohio after that. Not fun at all. BTW... Its the University of Alabama in HUNTSVILLE. I went there for a semester to study astrophysics back in the fall of 2008.

Anyway, yeah, that was nuts. I actually had to call people down there to make sure they were OK.

Anyway... in an effort to motivate you to be prepared, you should know that I wouldn't rule out that homicidal b***h being an Aspie, or at least being diagnosed with Asperger's. Just fair warning. If she is, just be prepared for backlash against us.


Yeah I notice that the inconsistency in student and teacher's statements as to what kind of person this teacher was was my first warning. Several prominent shooters have had major possible signs of autism/asperger's, particularly Cho-Seung Hui.

However, I dont think it's anything for us as aspies to worry about. A person's "medical condition" is usually the last thing that people target in "the blame game". Video games, easy weapon access, security incompetence, and a person's race/ethnicity are usually top scapegoat priority.



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18 Feb 2010, 5:29 pm

There seems to be more of those school shootings going on, and it doesn't surprise me.


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