G20 anarchy. Like a human hurricane.

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28 Jun 2010, 3:01 pm

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Send them to the Gulf!! Maybe they can help clean up the oil spill!! All that wasted energy!

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We need an AS point of view.

Toronto has not experienced anything like this!


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28 Jun 2010, 3:41 pm

What a complete and utter waste. These balaclava -wearing cowards with their bandanas covering their faces are nothing but that - cowards. They took advantage of the confusion and managed to blend into the fray. What the police should have done is tear gased and fired rubber bullets at them.

Just a correction, though. This kind of violence is not unhear of in Toronto. In the 90s Toronto experienced quite violent race riots, and lets not forget the 1837 Upper Canada Rebellion, but that's going way back.



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28 Jun 2010, 4:12 pm

I'm glad to see that the fuzz were enraged into brutal behaviour in service of plutocracy. Had I been there at the protests I would have told the fuzz to expect their pensions to be raided by the people they serve so dutifully.



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28 Jun 2010, 4:31 pm

It's about time. We should have been rioting in the streets for the past decade, and it just keeps getting worse.
The G20 is one of the more worthy targets.



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28 Jun 2010, 4:46 pm

After the RNC in St Paul and seeing this on a constant basis, I have to wonder why any city would even want to host events like this anymore. More money is spent on security and the loses mount for the people that live there.

True, the anarchists and those intent on committing violence instead of peaceful protest should be arrested, I see the government committing horrible acts too. Arresting deaf people because they did not follow a verbal order, just taking down random people in the area, canceling parade permits at the last minute to avoid judicial review, passing laws in secret and without legislative debate. And these are simply the cases that I already know about, there are many other examples of abuse.

I say that communities start to boycott events like this unless the organizer are willing to pay for security, not the communities that host them. They are money losing events anyways.



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28 Jun 2010, 8:10 pm

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After the RNC in St Paul and seeing this on a constant basis, I have to wonder why any city would even want to host events like this anymore. More money is spent on security and the loses mount for the people that live there.

True, the anarchists and those intent on committing violence instead of peaceful protest should be arrested, I see the government committing horrible acts too. Arresting deaf people because they did not follow a verbal order, just taking down random people in the
I say that communities start to boycott events like this unless the organizer are willing to pay for security, not the communities that host them. They are money losing events anyways.




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I'm glad to see that the fuzz were enraged into brutal behaviour in service of plutocracy. Had I been there at the protests I would have told the fuzz to expect their pensions to be raided by the people they serve so dutifully.


Tahitiii wrote:

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It's about time. We should have been rioting in the streets for the past decade, and it just keeps getting worse.
The G20 is one of the more worthy targets.


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What a complete and utter waste. These balaclava -wearing cowards with their bandanas covering their faces are nothing but that - cowards. They took advantage of the confusion and managed to blend into the fray. What the police should have done is tear gased and fired rubber bullets at them.

Just a correction, though. This kind of violence is not unhear of in Toronto. In the 90s Toronto experienced quite violent race riots, and lets not forget the 1837 Upper Canada Rebellion, but that's going way back.


Thanks for the correction, Bugzee. I had forgotten about that one in the 90s, and what a good memory for the Rebellion of 1837!

Just a complete disaster. Best not to hold these conventions in larger venues. Take them to a smaller town or the UN.

For my source I did not choose a mainstream television news item. I googled anarchy to find the type of demonstration that the Blackblockheads represents.


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28 Jun 2010, 9:49 pm

The only leader with intelligent things to say was of course ignored. Cristina Fernandez was telling Europe not to destroy itself, that the policies they plan to implement were disastrously tried in her Argentina 10 years ago. Meanwhile, Argentina is shut out of capital markets and Fernandez says that it's no big deal, growth is 5% and they haven't been in those markets in nearly 10 years.

It's most disgusting to see the media avert their eyes from the disastrous results of policies that Western government are planning when they've already been tried and with disastrous results!



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29 Jun 2010, 1:03 am

The G-20 did agree that starving he poor, cutting off medical treatment, raising taxes, were the only way to pay for the Government Good Life, and Security.



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29 Jun 2010, 6:31 am

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The G-20 did agree that starving he poor, cutting off medical treatment, raising taxes, were the only way to pay for the Government Good Life, and Security.


The pretty well describes how the Few treat the Many.

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29 Jun 2010, 7:07 am

I'm reasonably reliably informed there are police agents provacateurs doing their hardest to stir things up.

(That might sound odd coming from me, if you know how much I usually ridicule conspiracy theories, but I've had first-hand experience of police skulduggery while protesting in Scotland and I've been told it's going on at the G20 by people I trust. Not saying I agree with these black bloc muppets, mind. There are better ways.)


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06 Jul 2010, 9:56 pm

the problem wasn't the anarchist chuckleheads, the problem was the Toronto cops beating the snot out of anybody who looked at them funny


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07 Jul 2010, 10:24 am

Hound_of_Ulster wrote:
the problem wasn't the anarchist chuckleheads, the problem was the Toronto cops beating the snot out of anybody who looked at them funny


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There will be an Independent Civilian Inquiry which will determine if the police acted within reason, the time of which is to be announced.

In other countries, like China, there would be no discussion on this matter. We do live in a tolerant country, and our police are not an arm of any government. If there are problems (like the Tazering of Robert Dziekanski) there are ways and means of dealing with excessive force, and in Dziekanski's case, needless death.

Mob mentality is a difficult issue. Most of us have seen what happens when Police meet what they consider an unruly riot of whatever size. We are not as experienced with this as other countries and we aim to do a reasonable job. Peaceful protest can be accomplished peacefully, and demonstators who are peaceful must divorce themselves from anarchists who do rain on a peaceful parade.
Perhaps these demonstrators can hire their own security which could deal with potential probems before they arise. 8)


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