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02 Jul 2010, 12:25 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/78516 ... kness.html

Her vomiting was so severe, her health was at risk.



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02 Jul 2010, 1:02 am

They have meds for that. WTF.


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02 Jul 2010, 2:00 am

"Dr Brian Swallow, coordinator of Pregnancy Sickness Support 1st National Conference, said it was a condition that was too often trivialised.

Dr Swallow, of the University of Lincoln, said: ''Hyperemesis gravidarum can be far more serious than anyone realises."


vomiting constantly to the point where you can't stand up and develop high blood pressure is a fairly serious deal. Do you not think she would have tried meds?



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02 Jul 2010, 2:38 am

League_Girl wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7851621/Mother-aborts-baby-because-she-cannot-cope-with-morning-sickness.html

Her vomiting was so severe, her health was at risk.


I think the headline misrepresents the actual circumstances, as most people view morning sickness as temporary nausea with some vomiting.

Severe, constant vomiting quickly becomes a life threatening situation, especially with hypertension.

I had a stomach bug a while back where I vomited every 15 minutes while I was awake. I literally could not keep anything down. This went on for three days straight and I came very close to having to be hospitalized for dehydration and hypoglycemia.

She probably actually just saved herself the trauma of a miscarriage.



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02 Jul 2010, 2:38 am

League_Girl wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7851621/Mother-aborts-baby-because-she-cannot-cope-with-morning-sickness.html

Her vomiting was so severe, her health was at risk.


I think the headline misrepresents the actual circumstances, as most people view morning sickness as temporary nausea with some vomiting.

Severe, constant vomiting quickly becomes a life threatening situation, especially with hypertension.

I had a stomach bug a while back where I vomited every 15 minutes while I was awake. I literally could not keep anything down. This went on for three days straight and I came very close to having to be hospitalized for dehydration and hypoglycemia.

She probably actually just saved herself the trauma of a miscarriage.



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02 Jul 2010, 2:45 am

Gigi830 wrote:
They have meds for that. WTF.


They had really good meds for it at one point. Thalidomide for one. People are VERY wary of pregnancy nausea med's after that particular problem.


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02 Jul 2010, 9:06 am

Macbeth wrote:
Gigi830 wrote:
They have meds for that. WTF.


They had really good meds for it at one point. Thalidomide for one. People are VERY wary of pregnancy nausea med's after that particular problem.


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My mother was prescribed thalidomide at the beginning of her pregnancy with my sister in late 1957. Her morning sickness was nasty, though not as bad as the woman mentioned in this topic. My mother took 2 doses and felt strange and so discontinued it. For once my mother did the right thing, though she was not aware that she saved my sister from being a miscarriage or born missing limbs.

Perhaps the fetus was distressed as well, or maybe had severe birth defects incompatible with life. At any rate, it was the woman's choice.


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02 Jul 2010, 11:45 am

In another article it was mentioned she had it to prevent dehydration.
She had a severe form of morning sickness, hyperemesis gravidarum. It's worse than any normal morning sickness. Only about 1% of pregnancies suffer with it if I remember correctly. 1 in 20 pregnancies I read.

Yeah there have been pills for it but I read they would cause birth defects and all. This woman decided to not have anymore kids because she said she won't be able to have anymore. She also had morning sickness in her first pregnancy and lived through it but this time it was worse with her second she was unable to take care of her daughter because her sickness was that severe. She couldn't even walk either.

I was amazed at all the ignorance I read about the story. They were comparing their normal morning sickness to hers not even understanding. But on one forum, people were more understanding and there wasn't much ignorance. Only one person was and she apologized for it.



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02 Jul 2010, 1:14 pm

I am not an obstetrician, but treatment of HG is severely complicated by the fact that many antiemitics are contraindicated for pregnant women, making the therapeutic options extremely limited.

If IV hydration becomes necessary, at that point the viability of the pregnancy would come into doubt.


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02 Jul 2010, 2:11 pm

League_Girl wrote:
In another article it was mentioned she had it to prevent dehydration.
She had a severe form of morning sickness, hyperemesis gravidarum. It's worse than any normal morning sickness. Only about 1% of pregnancies suffer with it if I remember correctly. 1 in 20 pregnancies I read.

Yeah there have been pills for it but I read they would cause birth defects and all. This woman decided to not have anymore kids because she said she won't be able to have anymore. She also had morning sickness in her first pregnancy and lived through it but this time it was worse with her second she was unable to take care of her daughter because her sickness was that severe. She couldn't even walk either.

I was amazed at all the ignorance I read about the story. They were comparing their normal morning sickness to hers not even understanding. But on one forum, people were more understanding and so wasn't much ignorance. Only one person was and she apologized for it.


I JUST had a baby (he's 7 mos old right now) and I did a lot of research about MS meds AND talked to my OB about it (I get sick easily and was worried about it). They have new meds now that are perfectly safe and frequently used. I have known MANY women who has taken them recently and everything was fine and healthy.

For the record, I AM against abortion personally, however POLITICALLY I am pro-choice (just because I wouldn't have an abortion most likely doesn't mean I should make that decision for other people legally). Just wanted to say that.


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02 Jul 2010, 4:05 pm

I've heard that HG is pretty rare, but this woman had it so severe she couldn't take care of her other child. With this condition, drugs aren't effective like they would be with ordinary morning sickness, so often the only cure is delivery if there isn't a miscarriage caused by dehydration when the woman can't keep even water down.


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02 Jul 2010, 4:56 pm

Gigi830 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
In another article it was mentioned she had it to prevent dehydration.
She had a severe form of morning sickness, hyperemesis gravidarum. It's worse than any normal morning sickness. Only about 1% of pregnancies suffer with it if I remember correctly. 1 in 20 pregnancies I read.

Yeah there have been pills for it but I read they would cause birth defects and all. This woman decided to not have anymore kids because she said she won't be able to have anymore. She also had morning sickness in her first pregnancy and lived through it but this time it was worse with her second she was unable to take care of her daughter because her sickness was that severe. She couldn't even walk either.

I was amazed at all the ignorance I read about the story. They were comparing their normal morning sickness to hers not even understanding. But on one forum, people were more understanding and so wasn't much ignorance. Only one person was and she apologized for it.


I JUST had a baby (he's 7 mos old right now) and I did a lot of research about MS meds AND talked to my OB about it (I get sick easily and was worried about it). They have new meds now that are perfectly safe and frequently used. I have known MANY women who has taken them recently and everything was fine and healthy.

For the record, I AM against abortion personally, however POLITICALLY I am pro-choice (just because I wouldn't have an abortion most likely doesn't mean I should make that decision for other people legally). Just wanted to say that.


The type of medication available in the US does not necessarily always equate to what is available in the UK for the average person. NICE (National Institute of Clinical Excellence) are not always so nice about what they will pay for. Its not impossible that medication freely available in one country is not considered "cost effective" or perhaps has not passed satisfactory trials in another. In the same manner that the FDA in the states refused to pass Thalidomide for general use, I do not find it unlikely that NICE would be similarly apprehensive about any new equivalent.


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02 Jul 2010, 10:33 pm

Gigi830 wrote:
I JUST had a baby (he's 7 mos old right now) and I did a lot of research about MS meds AND talked to my OB about it (I get sick easily and was worried about it). They have new meds now that are perfectly safe and frequently used. I have known MANY women who has taken them recently and everything was fine and healthy.

For the record, I AM against abortion personally, however POLITICALLY I am pro-choice (just because I wouldn't have an abortion most likely doesn't mean I should make that decision for other people legally). Just wanted to say that.


What worked for you might well have been ineffective for another patient. One of the basic rules of medicine is that you treat the patient in front of you, not the theoretical patient. Even if a medication is perfectly safe and effective for 99.99% of all women, the 0.01% still need to be treated.


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