Crazy bill in the works to suspend mirranda rights

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02 Aug 2010, 10:00 am

There is this frightening bill that is in the works right now that will allow police and other justice officals to deny one their miranda rights which is right to a lawyer, right for a phone call, right to remain silent, there are others within these rights. The bill is being created to "combat terrorism" but is a blatant violation of constitutional rights. Plus they will be allowed to interogate a suspect for 4 days without miranda rights. There is nothing in this bill that says that it will not be used on US citizens. A few weeks ago someone's bedriden grandmother was tazed by police officers. Also kids are being arrested in schools for stupid stuff like squabling over desk assignments. Do you trust them enough to be denied basic rights if you are arrested for whatever reason. I know my mother was arrested for not showing her ID to an officer at the hospital while she was in the middle of a heart attack. She was denied her miranda rights and was denied a phone call to me or family or a lawyer. She was having crushing chest pain in jail and was denied medical treatment. If I did not find out where she was and raise hell to get her out...she would have died there. since they refused book her into the jail...there would have been no record of her being there. She was meant to die that night. What was her crime? She was a civil rights advocate that discovered that a local school district was framing kids who scored low on NCLB exams and sending them to kiddie jail, so they can and did improve the school exams so they wont be held accountable for providing a crappy education. What they did to my mom was unconstitutional, but this law will make it legal to do this to anyone.

This bill has support from Obama and Eric Holder.....Holder being civil rights lawyer should know better than to support this

ACLU says that the war on terror is actually a war on civil rights.

here is the article
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0801/terror ... da-rights/

the name of the bill is:
The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act of 2010

contact your senators and represenatives asap. They are going to try to slip this one in without much media coverage


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02 Aug 2010, 2:30 pm

thats sucks balls


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02 Aug 2010, 2:52 pm

Well, lets just say La Resistance is in the works... now because types that watch the FBI/CIA vans come around. Its the sad truth of the US. and really, the citizens need to f*****g rise up against the machine. The Orwellian Dystopia is becoming more and more of a reality.


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03 Aug 2010, 10:56 am

Bear in mind that Miranda rights emerge from the various constitutional protections extended to an accused.

While Congress is free to legislate as it thinks best, it is not free to run roughshod over the Constitution. Even if such legislation were passed (and I do not see that as likely), I certainly don't see it surviving judicial scrutiny.


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03 Aug 2010, 11:36 am

visagrunt wrote:
Bear in mind that Miranda rights emerge from the various constitutional protections extended to an accused.

While Congress is free to legislate as it thinks best, it is not free to run roughshod over the Constitution. Even if such legislation were passed (and I do not see that as likely), I certainly don't see it surviving judicial scrutiny.


I agree. This bad law is going to go down in flames.

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03 Aug 2010, 4:11 pm

I'm not sure that law will make it past judicial scrutiny as the Miranda rights were determined in a Supreme Court case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/g ... &invol=436


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03 Aug 2010, 9:44 pm

ADoyle wrote:
I'm not sure that law will make it past judicial scrutiny as the Miranda rights were determined in a Supreme Court case.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/g ... &invol=436


But the Miranda Rights were established. Eventually, finally.

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09 Aug 2010, 4:42 pm

I want you to call your representives and congresspersons. Asap!
If you type in who is my congressperson or who is my representive on ask.com there will be a site where you can type in your zip and who represents you will come up with their numbers and addresses.

If you scroll to the top, you will find the title of the bill which you will need.
Call your congresspersons and represntatives and tell them you dont support this bill.


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09 Aug 2010, 4:44 pm

Soon they will ban gun ownership.



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09 Aug 2010, 7:28 pm

Craig28 wrote:
Soon they will ban gun ownership.


Nah, even our Dems aren't that dumb, besides which we now have irrefutable Constitutional protections thanks to Heller and McDonald.


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09 Aug 2010, 9:54 pm

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09 Aug 2010, 10:15 pm

Craig28 wrote:
Soon they will ban gun ownership.


Heck, they aren't banned in Canada and the UK. It's just easier to obtain a long-arm than a short-arm.


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10 Aug 2010, 3:09 pm

It looks like the bill is dead for now.


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17 Aug 2010, 11:23 am

I hope it does not do a pet cementary thing


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24 Aug 2010, 4:58 pm

The police have way too much power. That's why I'd face a robber instead of going to them.



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25 Aug 2010, 9:22 pm

Many people in the black community feel the same way...I dont blame them after my experiences with police.
Still, even though the bill is dead it needs to be addressed to your lawmakers that it should never be concidered. Because like the crazy food safety bill that punishes small farmers and can quaratine a region without cause...it was dead for a while, but was rushed through without notice from the press.
The only way anyone knew about it was through the internet....now they are trying get rid of net neutrality with Google having a military security clearance...obviously having the government's fingerprint on it, it is only a matter of time before it all goes to hell.
But we need to fight this while we still have a resemblance of democracy


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