Wombat wrote:
What next? Will they need to check that you don't have a bomb shoved up your butt?
Wait. There's more. What about baggage handlers and aircraft cleaners and mechanics and refuelers?
Perhaps every day they should be stripped naked, x-rayed and have an anal probe because they might be (gasp) terrorists.
But we can't stop there. We must do the same to bus drivers and teachers and anyone who works for any government department anywhere.
Just because they have be working for the government for 20 years doesn't mean that they won't have a bomb up their butt tomorrow.
I'm glad that there are others who understand where this is leading. If this trend continues, this is the future we will see. Why stop making people even more "safe"? Rape everyone in the name of their own safety - yay! Everyone is happy and best of all, safe!
Fùck I hope the world, as we know it, somehow ends, soon. The human species is, overall, just too sickening, in its current state.... putrid.
visagrunt wrote:
All this pointless hyperbole. A pat down is not a sexual assault, because it does not have a sexual purpose.
Now, there are two real issues here:
1) Air travel is a privilege, not a right. You are free to avoid examination by foregoing the privilege to travel by air.
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2) Current security measures are excessive.
But even if measures are excessive, they don't cross the line into becoming unreasonable searches until they cease to be voluntary.
Being groped between your legs is a form of rape. If you disagree, you are simply wrong.
Furthermore, air travel should NOT be seen as a "privilege". How the hell are you going to move out from some shìt countries if you do not go by air? By boat? What if you want to move from the US to Europe? You're supposed to be months at some boat to get there? Do they even arrange such travels? And do not forget, some countries are surrounded by land, and along with that, other countries. Maybe you want it to be like it is in the Gaza strip? A prison country, because Israel prevents the movement of the people, there? Just one example, there are others. Flying should be seen as a right that you do not need to get raped to be able to make use of.
And the searches are not voluntary. You cannot fly unless you agree to them. And just wait and see, with your attitude, they will start with this in buses and trains, soon, too. Then what, won't bus and train rides be a right, according to you, either? I mean, surely you can walk, or go by your own car that you bought with all the money you have? Then again, just look at how it is in Iraq - those who go by car are often seen as potential terrorists! Better check them, too.
NathansMommy wrote:
If it means that ten million innocent travelers have to be subjected to body scans or patdowns just to catch the one person who has sinister plans, i'm fine with it. I totally agree that it might be humiliating and uncomfortable for some people, and that it is an invasion of privacy, but I would rather let someone look at a three second personal scan of me than be put in a potentionally dangerous situation.
So a form of rape and intrusive and physically dangerous nude scans, that sometimes well may be filmed with the checkers' mobiles and put up on the Internet, are okay, for the sake of security? Is that what you are saying?
It's far beyond a mere ten million, by the way. The world has about seven billion people, by now. Granted, all of them do not feel any need to fly.
wornlight wrote:
i do not think there is anything inherently sexual about a naked body. the purpose of the scan is not sexual and it does not result in any form of sexual stimulation to the recipient.
You can't possibly know what goes on in the minds of the ones checking the scans. It is sexual, to many. It's just a matter of time until we see a new form of illegal porn on the Internet - filmings of nude scans on airports. This is not something that is due to paranoia, in me - it is based on observations I have made on the utter shìttiness and hopelessness of humanity, that I have made over the years. I used to have hope in humanity, many years back... it slowly grew into an overall hatred. An overall one, that is... not like I view everyone in the same light.