JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CRUSHING WIKILEAKS, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'R

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03 Dec 2010, 7:44 am

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JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CRUSHING WIKILEAKS, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NEXT, SAY GOVERNMENTS

GOVERNMENTS around the world today stressed that just because they are trying to crush Wikileaks to death, it does not necessarily mean that you will be next.

Important officials in fancy offices in grand capital cities said the only reason they are erasing the whistleblowing site from existence and trying to arrest its spokesman on some trumped-up rape charge was because it had done some things they didn't particularly like.

One government spokesman said: "We know that you wouldn't do that. Sure, you might get upset about budget cuts but that's all part of the everyday rough and tumble. It's not like you are engaged in a relentless campaign to expose us as liars, cheats and murderers.

"No, as far as you're concerned everything is going to be just fine. As long as you just keep watching television.

"Of course at some point we may have to step in and decide exactly which television programmes you're allowed to watch, but again, it's really nothing for you to get all worked up about.

"Especially with your diabetes and your high blood pressure."

He added: "No, you'll be just fine with it, and of course if you weren't, then we would just switch you off as easily as pressing the stand-by button on your remote control. But that's obviously not going to happen to you. For goodness sake, why on earth would it?

"So we're agreed then - everything's cool and that man that we're beating to death in the corner of the room is just some smart-alec with a horrible website - probably with photos of children on it - that could very easily have killed you. Good.

"Anyway, I think that's the second half of Loose Women coming on, so I'll let you get back to it.

"Sorry to have bothered you."


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03 Dec 2010, 11:18 am

HAHAHA nice one



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03 Dec 2010, 12:52 pm

Actually, in this case the Government has a valid reason to make that claim because the documents being leaked can easily be considered stolen goods, illegally obtained, etc. Seriously, I don't trust the Obama White House at all, but they do have a point concerning wikileaks.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:54 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Actually, in this case the Government has a valid reason to make that claim because the documents being leaked can easily be considered stolen goods, illegally obtained, etc. Seriously, I don't trust the Obama White House at all, but they do have a point concerning wikileaks.


So, to censor this site you say they have the right to censor, despite the supposed right to free speech the US has, you support them creating bogus rape claims to wrongly imprison someone who committed no real crime?

BTW, copying documents is at the worst copyright infringement, or maybe breach of contract if confidentially agreements are in place. But it's not theft.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:57 pm

These are conversations that were supposed to remain confidential and private so it isn't a copyright violation it is trafficking in stolen property.

Furthermore, I don't believe the server for wikileaks is located in the United States, if it was you would be right to argue your point.



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03 Dec 2010, 12:59 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
These are conversations that were supposed to remain confidential and private so it isn't a copyright violation it is trafficking in stolen property.

Furthermore, I don't believe the server for wikileaks is located in the United States, if it was you would be right to argue your point.


So it's breach of contract, then.

The server WAS in the US, but the US government made Amazon - who hosted it on their cloud service - take it down. They're now on some other server using a Swiss domain name.

I'm pretty sure there are backups of WikiLeaks around, too, so it's not like they're gonna ever take it down no matter what they do.

The other Western countries participating in this BS also have freedom of speech laws, BTW.



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03 Dec 2010, 1:31 pm

Diplomatic cables are subject to the freedom of information act which means they'd have been released anyway, just not any time soon. A case could be made that these cables were intended to be private but due to the fact that these people work for the citizens of the US, the citizens have a right to know what their governement is saying and doing, whether the USG likes it or not. It's a shame it took an Australian to clean up our house and do the dirty work for us, Julian Assange and Bradley Manning should be seen as hero's, not criminals.



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03 Dec 2010, 2:27 pm

Yeah let's see how many people end up getting killed as a result of wikileaks and still see if you call them heros.

Just cause you can release something doesn't mean you should. Some of this stuff being released a decade or two from now wouldn't be a bad thing, but to release it right now could get someone and their entire family for that matter killed.



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03 Dec 2010, 6:10 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Yeah let's see how many people end up getting killed as a result of wikileaks and still see if you call them heros.

Just cause you can release something doesn't mean you should. Some of this stuff being released a decade or two from now wouldn't be a bad thing, but to release it right now could get someone and their entire family for that matter killed.


Falsifying rape charges is not an acceptable or civilised way to go about things regardless of what he did. Is it any wonder half the world hates the US when they refuse to follow their own laws, never mind anyone elses?

Besides, so far the leaks appear to be angled for saving lives. It can't have escaped North Korea that the Chinese aren't 100% behind every ridiculous action they take, for example. Might persuade them to calm down a little because without Chinese backing, they drop several levels on the threat scale. Claiming that these revelations endanger people is just more damage limitation BS.

Other than that, all the leaks have done is proven what we all knew: America is a vast arrogant bastard that thinks it can act with impunity, doesn't give two s**ts about any of its allies, and clearly doesn't understand the concept of "Free Speech" at all. Pakistan can't secure its nukes properly. The Afghan government is corrupt. Nobody ever listened to Gordon Brown.

I think the only real major news is that America is so f*****g useless at security that it keeps a quarter of a million "secret" files going back twenty odd years where any passing bored squaddie can get them all onto a flash drive. I'm beginning to think that Gary Mckinnon wasn't a hacker at all. He just googled "Pentagon" and "Aliens" and the whole system just exposed itself like a flasher at a kindergarten. Maybe this Manning chap did the same thing. Stick "Secret Diplomatic Cables, not for public consumption." into google. See what happens. Just be warned that the United States of "What is this "Firewall" of which you Speak?" will burst into tears and then hunt you like Osama. Or ignore the warning completely, because the useless s**ts can't find him either.

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See those boxes in that sh***y old shed? That's the Secure Cache at the Pentagon, that is.


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