The 19 senators who voted to censor the internet

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21 Nov 2010, 4:52 pm

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The 19 Senators Who Voted To Censor The Internet
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This is hardly a surprise but, this morning (as previously announced), the lame duck Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously voted to move forward with censoring the internet via the COICA bill -- despite a bunch of law professors explaining to them how this law is a clear violation of the First Amendment. What's really amazing is that many of the same Senators have been speaking out against internet censorship in other countries, yet they happily vote to approve it here because it's seen as a way to make many of their largest campaign contributors happy. There's very little chance that the bill will actually get passed by the end of the term but, in the meantime, we figured it might be useful to highlight the 19 Senators who voted to censor the internet this morning .....


Hehe, I remember Hillary Clinton saying something like "the Basic rights of internet users" once...

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21 Nov 2010, 5:55 pm

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21 Nov 2010, 6:14 pm

Only one I'm surprised about is Coburn whom either didn't understand the bill or has some explaining to do.

I expect Senator Lindsey Graham (sp?) to end up being challenged in a 2012 primary probably bumped off there.

Also didn't Glenn Beck predict this about a year ago?



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21 Nov 2010, 6:20 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Only one I'm surprised about is Coburn whom either didn't understand the bill or has some explaining to do.

I expect Senator Lindsey Graham (sp?) to end up being challenged in a 2012 primary probably bumped off there.

Also didn't Glenn Beck predict this about a year ago?


I dont really pay attention to the hard right and left media, but I remember my father (who is modarate right) calling glenn beck a nutjob for saying that this will happen specifically. Currently I am really starting to look into the "theorys" more and more.

And I have been one of the few disillusioned from the beginning in stating that power invariably corrupts, both the left right and whatnot need to be taken down. And Im about to get an "underground" server up and running Once I finish collecting the funds needed. Just need a way to create a "zombie proxy network" In order to mask the location...


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21 Nov 2010, 6:26 pm

Even a broken clock gets the time right twice a day.

It is not exactly a great prediction though. Even since ACTA it was clear the copyright cartels were looking into this. They got tentacles all over the democrats and the republicans to accomplish it. It is a unanimous vote, fellows.


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21 Nov 2010, 6:28 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Only one I'm surprised about is Coburn whom either didn't understand the bill or has some explaining to do.

I expect Senator Lindsey Graham (sp?) to end up being challenged in a 2012 primary probably bumped off there.

Also didn't Glenn Beck predict this about a year ago?


I dont really pay attention to the hard right and left media, but I remember my father (who is modarate right) calling glenn beck a nutjob for saying that this will happen specifically. Currently I am really starting to look into the "theorys" more and more.


For the record, Glenn Beck has stated that he used to think people talking about conspiracies were nuts.

Also if they go after you, they won't be content on shutting down a server.

@ Vexcalibur

Glenn Beck has been getting things right way too often lately to just be a as you phrased a 'broken clock.' Politicians have been trying to push internet censorship for a while particularly the Democrats, I'm just surprised any Republicans actually went along with it. I'm wondering what incentives they were offered.



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21 Nov 2010, 6:43 pm

America has been owned by corporate interests for the last few decades.

This should not have come as a surprise, and our freedoms have already been thrown out from under us. Now it's just more blatant.



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21 Nov 2010, 7:18 pm

Quartz11 wrote:
America has been owned by corporate interests for the last few decades.

This should not have come as a surprise, and our freedoms have already been thrown out from under us. Now it's just more blatant.


Uh it isn't Corporations that are the villains most of the time, usually it is the Unions. The Internet Censorship if it goes through is likely to be used to try to shut down Fox News, Drudge Report, and Conservative Blog sites.

Those will be the first places targetted to stiffle any dissent.

Conservative Talk Radio will be targetted not long after that.


I just hope no one dies in the United States Supreme Court, cause that's where it is probably going to end up and Obama will want to put in judges that will say Internet Censorship is constitutional. It's been a long dream of Democrats ever since President Reagan canned the original "fairness doctrine."

Call it for what it is, a power grab.



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21 Nov 2010, 7:19 pm

* Patrick J. Leahy -- Democrat
* Herb Kohl -- Democrat
* Jeff Sessions -- Republican
* Dianne Feinstein -- Democrat
* Orrin G. Hatch -- Republican
* Russ Feingold -- Democrat
* Chuck Grassley -- Republican
* Arlen Specter -- Democrat
* Jon Kyl -- Republican
* Chuck Schumer -- Democrat
* Lindsey Graham -- Republican
* Dick Durbin -- Democrat
* John Cornyn -- Republican
* Benjamin L. Cardin -- Democrat
* Tom Coburn -- Republican
* Sheldon Whitehouse -- Democrat
* Amy Klobuchar -- Democrat
* Al Franken -- Democrat
* Chris Coons -- Democrat

12 Democrats
7 Republican
... probably about even considering current majority



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21 Nov 2010, 7:22 pm

I'm actually surprised any Republican went along with this, I'd say send a lot of e-mail to the Republican Senators.

Say if they vote to let this get past a fillabuster when they are next up for reelection you will support whomever versus them in the primaries.



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21 Nov 2010, 7:41 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Only one I'm surprised about is Coburn whom either didn't understand the bill or has some explaining to do.

I expect Senator Lindsey Graham (sp?) to end up being challenged in a 2012 primary probably bumped off there.

Also didn't Glenn Beck predict this about a year ago?


I dont really pay attention to the hard right and left media, but I remember my father (who is modarate right) calling glenn beck a nutjob for saying that this will happen specifically. Currently I am really starting to look into the "theorys" more and more.


For the record, Glenn Beck has stated that he used to think people talking about conspiracies were nuts.

Also if they go after you, they won't be content on shutting down a server.

@ Vexcalibur

Glenn Beck has been getting things right way too often lately to just be a as you phrased a 'broken clock.' Politicians have been trying to push internet censorship for a while particularly the Democrats, I'm just surprised any Republicans actually went along with it. I'm wondering what incentives they were offered.


well, if they go after me, I will make sure it gets "extreme". I never had any bit of love towards my own government. If they try to stifle me speaking out, I already have contingencies in place to ensure people WILL hear about it. Im well known enough in some circles that If I do get silenced, s**t will most definitely happen. Even if I don't do something, some other person with some influence with the various groups of the internet will stir up s**t, most likely /b/ or anon.


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21 Nov 2010, 8:25 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I'm actually surprised any Republican went along with this, I'd say send a lot of e-mail to the Republican Senators.

Say if they vote to let this get past a fillabuster when they are next up for reelection you will support whomever versus them in the primaries.


No, it fits nicely with the corporate agenda.

In their case, it's not so much censorship as it is the destruction of net neutrality laws.



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21 Nov 2010, 9:40 pm

So the corporate gods are trying to make their move again in divvying up the last bastion of freedom for the sake of profit? :roll:


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21 Nov 2010, 11:11 pm

Quartz11 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
I'm actually surprised any Republican went along with this, I'd say send a lot of e-mail to the Republican Senators.

Say if they vote to let this get past a fillabuster when they are next up for reelection you will support whomever versus them in the primaries.


No, it fits nicely with the corporate agenda.

In their case, it's not so much censorship as it is the destruction of net neutrality laws.


The law is for "net neutrality." Let me break this down for you.

Any proposal by the Democrats like: "net neutrality" and "fairness doctrine." Are really censorship doctrines to stifle free speech. That means any conservative voice as well as anyone that is pro-republican.

For all Democrats claim they are for freedom, they are actually the party that usually tries to take freedoms away.



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22 Nov 2010, 8:40 am

Inuyasha wrote:
For all Democrats claim they are for freedom, they are actually the party that usually tries to take freedoms away.


Both Republicans and Democrats are statists (but in different ways). That State is the enemy of the Man.

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22 Nov 2010, 8:53 am

Unanimous vote.

Every senator in the commission voted for it. 100% of democrats, 100% of republicans.

Edit:
"Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act"

This is about copyright infringement not net neutrality, but I wouldn't like the US legislators touching net neutrality either...


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