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02 Dec 2010, 4:43 am

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Secretary of Defense: Let's Stop Freaking Out Over WikiLeaks, Nobody Trusted Us Anyway

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Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is keeping it really real regarding the WikiLeaks controversy. His take? It doesn't matter. All the talk of international embarrassment and diplomatic implosion doesn't change the fact that nobody trusts the US to begin with.

Speaking with some seriously refreshing candor, Gates cracked, "Every other government in the world knows the United States government leaks like a sieve, and it has for a long time." So maybe we should all relax over "meltdowns" and the like. You don't need to worry about tainting international image when it's already tainted! [NYT]


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02 Dec 2010, 3:54 pm

If I was an Iraqi and I wanted to help the US take out Al Qaeda, I probably wouldn't give any information to US Forces because that would be a death sentence for my family thanks to wikileaks.



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02 Dec 2010, 6:11 pm

Screw that idiot, he doesn't know what freedom is or that public organizations should be transparent and accountable to its citizens. The Federal Government is the greatest threat to democracy in the United States, and it's acting like a private non-transparent organization accountable to NO ONE. I have no allegiance except for the truth, regardless of where it comes from.



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02 Dec 2010, 6:52 pm

"The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants."



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02 Dec 2010, 7:11 pm

@Ivy he kinda said ignore wikileaks promoting that view would be much more advantageous than promoting the probable alternative. lets not screw him ne?

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02 Dec 2010, 8:09 pm

I really don't care what he says.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:15 pm

IvyMike wrote:
I really don't care what he says.


then why not go bother some other thread



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02 Dec 2010, 8:29 pm

Because he is part of the problem and I will not ever back down. You make me fight harder.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:31 pm

IvyMike wrote:
Because he is part of the problem and I will not ever back down. You make me fight harder.


how is he part of the problem? his viewpoint at least in this instance would contribute to the advancement of your viewpoint. He for all practical purposes agrees with you.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:48 pm

He promotes policy that violates international law and if we used the same standards on ourselves that we used against the Nazis that piece of trash would probably be hung.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:51 pm

IvyMike wrote:
He promotes policy that violates international law and if we used the same standards on ourselves that we used against the Nazis that piece of trash would probably be hung.


What policy would that be? Also need I remind you that the United States only bows to international law when it feels like it.



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02 Dec 2010, 8:57 pm

Look, I think you're a moron and ignorant of basic information. Conversation over.



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03 Dec 2010, 3:20 pm

I think IvyMike was referring to user Inuyasha and not the subject of the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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03 Dec 2010, 3:24 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
I think IvyMike was referring to user Inuyasha and not the subject of the OP. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Quite frankly, I couldn't care less about who IvyMike was talking to quite frankly. There is such thing as transparency there is also such thing as common sense.



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03 Dec 2010, 6:15 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
If I was an Iraqi and I wanted to help the US take out Al Qaeda, I probably wouldn't give any information to US Forces because that would be a death sentence for my family thanks to wikileaks.


If I was a volunteer helping to rebuild Afghanistan after the Americans cluster-bombed it into the stone age, I don't think I would want US Special Forces to be given information about where I am in case some cack-handed jarhead grenades me to death, which would be a death sentence for me thanks to America.

If I was any other sovereign nation in the world except China or Russia I don't think I would want the Americans anywhere near me in case they decided to demolish my infrastructure and replace my government with a corrupt patsy of their choosing. I would know I can't trust them thanks to wikileaks.


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03 Dec 2010, 7:02 pm

Macbeth wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
If I was an Iraqi and I wanted to help the US take out Al Qaeda, I probably wouldn't give any information to US Forces because that would be a death sentence for my family thanks to wikileaks.


If I was a volunteer helping to rebuild Afghanistan after the Americans cluster-bombed it into the stone age, I don't think I would want US Special Forces to be given information about where I am in case some cack-handed jarhead grenades me to death, which would be a death sentence for me thanks to America.

If I was any other sovereign nation in the world except China or Russia I don't think I would want the Americans anywhere near me in case they decided to demolish my infrastructure and replace my government with a corrupt patsy of their choosing. I would know I can't trust them thanks to wikileaks.


You didn't seriously need wikileaks for that, did you?