Wisconsin house republicans force vote.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110225/ap_ ... get_unions

Well.. that sounds fair
Good luck to the protesters

As if we needed more proof, America is no longer a democracy.

We are a one party state, mostly corporatocracy working under the banner of the Republican Party.

Really at this point I think the Republicans have gotten to the conclusion if the Democrats are going to behave like toddlers they are going to be treated as such. 1 AM is way past the bed time for any 2 year old.


Also the debate was taken after 3 straight days of debate:

The vote on Friday morning ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But Democrats in that chamber are crying foul because they say the proper procedure to cut debate wasn't followed. Assembly Democratic leaders are now considering whether to challenge the vote.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02 ... nti-union/

So its not like the Democrats didn't have a chance to voice their opinions.

The dems were just stalling, they had sufficient enough time to debate. Could you imagine if it was the Tea Party acting this way?

Yeah actually I can, they would probably be called violent and hateful, blah blah blah....

And it wouldn't take much imagination either, just look at the mainstream media's track record.

They were using the filibuster, if I understand correctly. I thought Republicans loved the filibuster?

Uh there is no filibuster in a state assembly and/or the US House of Representatives. Traditionally a filibuster is seen in the Senate whether it is state or Federal.

The exact procedure likely varies from state to state, and I am not familiar with the details of the Wisconsin state government, but the article indicated that the Democrats were filibustering. But the real point here is that you want to cry obstructionism when the other side blocks your agenda, but not when it goes the other way.

The GOP allowed them to debate this a few days. As far as I know they could of ended debate days ago if they wanted too. They have a supermajority in the state assembly.

Riiigghhttt....

Show me where filibuster is in the state assembly rules?

As I said, I'm not familiar with how Wisconsin's state legislature is set up. I am only going off the claim of the article that they were filibustering.

The broader point was that Republicans have been very ardent users of every conceivable delaying tactic for the past several years, and yet when the situation is turned around and someone tries to stall their agenda, they throw a fit. It is hypocritical.

Uh they didn't throw a fit they had the votes to pass it, and decided to pass it, the Dems didn't like it whatever, we now know who supports a money laundering scheme (Democrats)and who doesn't (Republicans).

a) A "couple days" is a very short timeline for major budget changes. Stuff like this is generally given much more time.

b) Don't assume that Winsconsin's failings mean that America is no longer democractic. A single part does not define the whole. (True story, the US didn't start out democratic, it was a republic. Our founding fathers hated the idea of democracy. It has however over the generations become more and more democratic in nature as the people have demanded.)

c)More fun facts: The unions conceded on every point, but the Governor is still insisting that they give up their collective bargaining power. Thats what this protest is over. Not the budget itself.

d) Anyone else amused people are so upset the Governor is doing what he promised to do during the election? Protip: Know who you're voting for!

e) What money laundering sceme? what are you talking about?

That was the plan.

True.

And that was Walker's plan all along; use the budget crisis as a reason to attack the unions. (Brought to you by the Koch brothers)

Actually Walker didn't campaign on attacking the unions, nor did he ever mention what he would do with the state unions during his campaign.

More radical right-wing conspiracy nonsense.

Okay, we're talking about dealing with a shortfall, they didn't pass the whole budget also there is a Constitutional Amendment in Wisconsin that the budget has to be balanced.



We are still a Constitutional Republic, and Wisconsin is not a tyranny. The reason the Union is really so angry is because their money laundering scheme has been derailed.

Money appropriated by politicians goes to union employees whom pay dues to big labor whom in turn donate campaign money for Democrat Campaigns. There is absolutely no one until now looking out for the tax payers. The Democrats had a financial interest in getting the union members as many perks and as much money as possible. You can't have unions running both sides of the negotiating table.



Well that's funny because it looks like as this drags on the Governor is getting more popular.




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