Scientists investigating dolphin deaths given gagging order

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1HpyvsaCJ

There have been rising deaths of Dolphins. To me it is likely due to the pollution from the Gulf oil spill and Ocean Noise Pollution may also be playing its part.

Sorry, but this probably isn't part of a government cover-up, as The Daily Mail and their sensationalist friends believe it is. Gag orders are quite common when the information given will likely sway a jury before voir dire (e.g. an especially graphic video of alleged police abuse). In this case, scientists probably cannot yet show that the oil spill increased dolphin deaths, yet that is naturally the conclusion most people will reach.

Sorry, but even BP deserves a fair trial. That's the way our system works.

I do not like the daily mail either (it blows things out of proportion all the time) but this is the problem, if the results clearly show an oil related illness then it is necessary to a fair trial.

Edit: My Avatar certainly adds to this topic lol, Although is mostly there to represent my views on not moving towards renewable at a much faster rate.

This appears connected and suggests it was because of the radar used in a navy training exercise.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 3815.story

Large die-offs in the gulf are part of a federal investigation and all data needs to be protected from media spin in order to avoid any unnecessary further bias of potential juries. If it later turns out that someone is simply trying to hide the extent of the damage to the gulf, then a large movement to life the gag order will me in order.

Say if the conclusions did amount to evidence in the BP case and that there is a gag order. How do the findings eventually come to light?

radar will not kill marine life.. sonar on high settings will.

Submarines and anti-submarine warfare makes use of 'active' sonar pulses that to any organism, fish or human, that's within a certain radius of it (usually 5+ miles) can suffer severe injury from.

One active sonar pulse (ping) from a sub kills everything in its immediate proximity and causes permanent damage to things 2 miles and above from it. ASW units use a less powerful version of it but they drop dozens of devices on a wide area of ocean to try and spot the subs..so its the practically the same thing.


but that's instant or within weeks that the fish or dolphins would die from it. These dolphins have been washing dead on shore for months on the gulf coast (not california!)... so probably its not caused by the navy... probably the oil spill.

Such cute creatures sway public opinion. The oyster spat settled, attached, and then died. Some of it was fresh water flooding to keep the oil out, but they also died at the proper salinity. They are now saying seven years, where oysters harvest in two. The dispersant seems the cause.

There is no telling as many gulf fish spawn in the marsh, and the young go offshore. Some species may become scarce, in years to come.

Fish we do not fish feed the tuna and whales offshore, Like DDT and Dioxen they move up the food chain. Whales eat tons.

It is also the bottom of the Mississippi Flyway, millions of ducks, geese, cranes, winter in the marsh. What will next years egg hatch in Canada be like?

This is most of the wetlands in America. Birds, fish, shrimp, crabs, oysters, had their one good spot left. Oysters are functionally extinct worldwide, over harvest, pollution, the Gulf was the last strong population.

The Exxon Valdez many years later, the fishing never recovered. Loss of the breeding stock, a few spawn runs, and the population crashes, and can take decades to reach a strong breeding population again. Fishing can be good for years, those coming in from the ocean, before the missing generations show up.

We will not know the result for decades.

Now it is the sea turtles, hundreds washing up dead, centered just north of the BP spill. For every hundred that die maybe two wash up somewhere.

Something is moving up the life chain.

Such a shame