EU attempting to ban cars in European cities by 2050

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -2050.html


Government running amok.

Whilst this is good for air pollution it is more or less a carbon tax. I hate that our focus is on emissions when the real issues with climate lie with replanting vegetation and restoring soil quality.

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Another reason to be glad to be an American!

That's not actually true. They want to move away from conventional cars and the reliance on petrol and diesel. You can see this already in London as councils invest in electric car charging points. And cities are already taking steps to reduce the number of cars themselves, nothing to do with the EU, everything to do with congestion and public health.

Yes!! I've always hated those stupid cars.

Well, I'd just ban cars altogether, so be happy you don't live in my dictatorship

We also need to take into account the fact the EU is not the same as the United States...yes it sounds dumb and obvious, but people don't really dwell on the realistic geographical differences between both units...A country such as the UK is compact, has roads not devised for motor traffic originally, and is not spread out, like the United States...Im not sure the demographics, but I live near New York City...the vast majority of people who spend the day in Manhattan don't actually LIVE in manhattan...they commute, from New jersey, PA, CT, Long Island. Cars are an intergral part of the U.S economy...suburbs are where the vast majority of people live. We are also a country that is spread out and reaches two oceans. The car was invented for all practical purposes in the U.S and its part of our DNA as a nation...we take pride in road trips, excursions on weekends, visiting different parts of the country. Trains like in Europe are nice, but we dont have extended vacations for a month here, so it would be impractical to take a 3-4 train ride cross country from New York to L.A...Its just not practical in large countries, for short, imo.

Exactly. Spend 16 hours on the M6 travelling 150km or half your life on the North Circular trying to get to Ikea and then see how you feel about this.

I used to live in a small town just outside London. My place of work was 15 minutes from home as the crow flies. Often it would take me 3 or 4 hours to drive between the 2. One time I left work at 3 and didn't get home till after 11. No disaster, crash or anything, just sheer weight of traffic.

Not that I'm aware of. We're quite attached to our Roman and medieval road systems. We want our governments to deal with the problem by getting rid of all the other cars except ours.

Rome banished wagons and chariots during the day. Goods were delivered at night, and the people had the streets for the day. Traffic is an old problem.

2040, a ban on gas and diesel might be quaint, as oil fields are drying up now.

Long range thinking says this will not last, but we still have to move people and goods.

What was proposed was not banning personal transportation, just gas and diesel, something that is powered by WiFi Hotspots would work.

The American way is huge vehicles, one person, sitting in traffic. LA was designed by the oil companies, a million SUVs going nowhere, burning fuel.

With names like "Yukon", "Tundra", Americans are ready to head to the North Pole, if they could get out of the gridlock. If they could find fuel, and if they could afford it.

Driving is killing the economy. Imported oil, building and maintaining roads, design for car owners only, and overall cost of $1 a mile, times millions, day and night.

Localized economy employs more people in local markets, and customers who walk or bike are in better health for it.

Planning for a world without gas and diesel makes sense. Some American cities have walking only zones, a Mexican tourist town has parking on the outskirts, walking only in the main old town. People survive these harsh measures, even if they have a right to drive their pick me up truck everywhere.

Driving while eating a burger and talking on the phone in a huge vehicle the Army would not want is a social problem, and the forklift needed to get the driver out, who has a BMI of 2. Americans now weight enough for 2.

Through time most people never went more than ten miles from where they were born. They could walk there in the morning, and walk back home by night. Somehow they survived.

It is the cheapest, healthiest, and most secure.

If the Maddi Army overthrows the Bey of Tripoli, there will not be a shoe leather shortage in the Shire.