The worst storm in my lifetime: Sandy
She struct the Carribean first and quickly became a killer storm, claiming 72 lives there.
Cuba
Haiti
She then moved up the east coast brushing several states and doing coastal damage in North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland & Delaware. Making an abrubt 90 degree turn she then doubled her speed and slammed into New Jersey and New York at high tide during a full moon (Spring Tide). The total death toll so far is 113 in the US, accross 10 states, with most being in NYC, and New Jersey, though Sandy would kill much further inland including 14 in Pennsylvania where I live now and as far north as Connecticut, Rhode Island and even Canada. Sandy was only a Cat 1 Hurricane but also what is called a Hydrid Storm, which is one that merges with a Land based Storm (a Northeaster) and becomes powered by both in two different ways. The Hurricane takes its power off the heat of the water, while the Northeaster its power from the temperature difference of the cold front meeting the warmer air. Sandy also had a very low barometric pressure more in line with a cat 3-4 storm. All together it made for an usually powerful and large storm.
New Jersey
Seaside Heights, NJ
New Jersey
Atlantic City New Jersey
Hoboken Subway, NJ
New York City Skyline
Brooklyn, NYC
Manhattan, NYC
Hospital Staff working by Emergency Lighting, NYC
A young couple who died in Manhattan
Manhattan, NYC
Manhattan, NYC
Manhattan subway
Staten Island, NYC
Staten Island, NYC
Staten Island, NYC
Breazy Point, NYC
Breazy Point, NYC
Rockaway Beach, where I played as a kid.
A working Replica of the sailing ship HMS Bounty sank trying to skirt around the storm, killing 2, including the Captain whose body has not been recovered. The ship was made to film The Mutiny on the Bounty and used most recently in the filming of Pirates of the Carribean.
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Long Beach, NY, Surfer riding Hurricane Sandy storm surf. Pretty insane considering its basically shorebreak. This is where I learned to surf, and here and the surf spots from the end of Long Island to the Northern Jersey breaks is where I spent most of 5 years of my life, but I never saw waves quite this high on the east coast.
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Well, some 20 or so year ago, Captain Planet said that if we didn't do something about global warming, the waves would be taking a bite out of the Big Apple. Looks like he was right, after all. And then with that new lake in Greenland, and other things, I'm not sure why people don't believe it's not real.
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The loss of life was relatively small because the track of the storm was well plotted in advance. However the economic damage is staggering. The total bill may go as high as 100 billion dollars. The lower part of Manhattan (the business district) was flooded out and the subways south of 34 street are mostly inoperative. Two Consolidated Edison power generation complexes were completely trashed by the storm surge. Con Ed. built their sea wall two feet higher than the last high water mark. Unfortunately because of the full moon tidal effect the water come in three feet higher than that. Good bye generators..
New Jersey's famous beach areas and boardwalks (for example at Atlantic City) are gone forever. The Atlantic City Roller Coaster ended up in the ocean. New Jersey will never look like it once did along the Atlantic Shore. This is bad news for New Jersey since the Atlantic Shore was one of the main vacation and tourist area. This is a big income loss for the state.
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Agree with what your saying except for this. Sandy's death total is double any entire years combined in last 20 years except Katrina, which was a borderline Cat 4.
Caribbean - 71+
Haiti - 54 (plus 21 still missing)
Cuba - 11
Bahamas - 2
Dominican Republic - 2
Jamaica - 1
Puerto Rico - 1
United States - 117
New York - 48
New Jersey - 24
Pennsylvania - 15
Maryland - 11
West Virginia - 7 (mainly from Sandy caused Blizzard)
Connecticut - 4
North Carolina - 3
Ohio - 2
Virginia - 2
New Hampshire - 1
Total - 181+
HURRICANES RELATED DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES, 1958-2011
(not complete yet, still verifying numbers)
1958 - 0
1959 - 0
1960 - 50 (+115 Caribbean)
1961 - 0
1962 - 0
1963 - 0
1964 - 0
1965 - 75
1966 - 0
1967 - 0
1968 - 0
1969 - 256
1970 - 0
1971 - 0
1972 - 0
1973 - 0
1974 - 0
1975 - 0
1976 - 0
1977 - 0
1978 - 117
1979 - 5 (+1200 Caribbean)
1980 - 21 (+80 Caribbean)
1981 - 0
1982 - 0
1983 - 21
1984 - 0
1985 - 63
1986 - 0
1987 - 0
1988 - 0
1989 - 57 (+29 Caribbean)
1990 - 0
1991 - 0
1992 - 27
1993 - 3
1994 - 8 (+1122 Caribbean)
1995 - 29
1996 - 59
1997 - 6
1998 - 23
1999 - 60
2000 - 4
2001 - 42
2002 - 5
2003 - 24
2004 - 59 (+66 Caribbean)
2005 - 1,518 (+11 Caribbean)
2006 - 0
2007 - 1
2008 - 41
2009 - 6
2010 - 11
2011 - 44
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Seeing those photos brought home how serious this was in a way I did not realize before.
Thank you all very much for your comments. Its good to know somebody gets it.
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Agree with what your saying except for this. Sandy's death total is double any entire years combined in last 20 years except Katrina, which was a borderline Cat 4.
Caribbean - 71+
Haiti - 54 (plus 21 still missing)
Cuba - 11
Bahamas - 2
Dominican Republic - 2
Jamaica - 1
Puerto Rico - 1
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The Carribean has one tenth the population of the U.S. So its death toll percentage wise is five times ours.
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The good news is that the streets, subways, and beaches in NY and NJ are cleaner than they have been in a century!
The bad news is that nobody can legally defend themselves from marauding crackheads that are sacking the place, and the relief efforts suck in less high profile places.
That was just propaganda to indoctrinate young, undeveloped minds. Sandy is not without precedent, it was just compounded by a full moon, which causes an exceptionally high tide, and the storm made landfall right as the tide was at it's peak. Without the additional ASTRONOMICAL factors, it would have been very similar to the last storm of that type in 1991.
I'm still in shock that someone old enough to use the internet and type would use Captain Planet to validate a statement!
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The bad news is that nobody can legally defend themselves from marauding crackheads that are sacking the place, and the relief efforts suck in less high profile places.
That was just propaganda to indoctrinate young, undeveloped minds. Sandy is not without precedent, it was just compounded by a full moon, which causes an exceptionally high tide, and the storm made landfall right as the tide was at it's peak. Without the additional ASTRONOMICAL factors, it would have been very similar to the last storm of that type in 1991.
I'm still in shock that someone old enough to use the internet and type would use Captain Planet to validate a statement!
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1) 4 feet is the variance between new moon and full, normally...it's not exceptionally high, and ironically enough, the infrastructure is built for that... storm surge is measured as the level above the AVERAGE for that time. Subtract that four feet and you end up with a 9.3 foot flood. Still enough to cover the first floor and in some places, parts of the second. Further... the flooding took place over more than twelve hours... meaning that it was flooding during low tide as well.
2) before you dismiss global warming, you might want to do some serious research. Whether we are the cause or not reamins to be determined according to some, but no one can deny the trends in global temperature.
3) I am still in shock that someone on this board would take that condescending and rude tone with someone else. Please, learn to speak with respect, or not at all. Before you ask what I am talking about...I mean this string of text specifically "I'm still in shock that someone old enough to use the internet and type would use Captain Planet to validate a statement!
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Actually, a lot of the storm surge mixed with raw sewage, chemicals, and other generally yucky stuff you find beneath the streets of an urban environment. Hardly a cleaning.
And most of Manhattan is actually quite clean. Same with the parts of Brooklyn and Queens I have seen. Maybe I haven't gotten out in NYC enough, but my impression is that it's a pretty tidy place nowadays.
2) before you dismiss global warming, you might want to do some serious research. Whether we are the cause or not reamins to be determined according to some, but no one can deny the trends in global temperature.
There is no doubt that the world is in a warm epoch. The real question is: to what extent does human activity drive the warming.
It is clear that we are in a warm phase. The Ice Age ended about 25,000 years ago. How did it end? Things got warmer.
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2) before you dismiss global warming, you might want to do some serious research. Whether we are the cause or not reamins to be determined according to some, but no one can deny the trends in global temperature.
3) I am still in shock that someone on this board would take that condescending and rude tone with someone else. Please, learn to speak with respect, or not at all. Before you ask what I am talking about...I mean this string of text specifically "I'm still in shock that someone old enough to use the internet and type would use Captain Planet to validate a statement!
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The tide is still a factor because it stays high for several hours and the water doesn't magically all recede--especially on such a flat area--and takes time to drain. I've done research, and found a little bit of change in weather patterns, mountains of alarmist propaganda, and no global warming.
And still, Captain Planet is still a laughable source that makes it sound like you do not have the level of mental development to differentiate between TV and real life. There are better sources! Use them!
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