One Man's Fight against a lawless government

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20 Jun 2011, 3:40 am

This was written by a man who burnt himself to death in front of a New Hampshire courthouse. I think it is his way of trying to get people motivated to restore rule of law.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?299475-Self-Immolation-in-NH-quot-When-the-State-Breaks-a-Man-quot-.&p=3351424

In much the same way, this guy is very similar to the Tunisian who set himself ablaze to protest government lawlessness and corruption. In Tunisia, this has led to an uprising against government corruption.


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20 Jun 2011, 4:46 pm

I saw that. Family courts are out of control and the restraining order process is a travesty too.


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20 Jun 2011, 5:48 pm

The undisputed start to the incident: He was putting his four year old daughter to bed, and she was licking his hand. He warned her verbally to stop, three times, then slapped her face hard enough to draw blood.

What the heck?


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20 Jun 2011, 7:20 pm

cyberscan wrote:
This was written by a man who burnt himself to death in front of a New Hampshire courthouse. I think it is his way of trying to get people motivated to restore rule of law.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?299475-Self-Immolation-in-NH-quot-When-the-State-Breaks-a-Man-quot-.&p=3351424

In much the same way, this guy is very similar to the Tunisian who set himself ablaze to protest government lawlessness and corruption. In Tunisia, this has led to an uprising against government corruption.


They both lost. They are dead and the governments they opposed are still as bad as ever.

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20 Jun 2011, 8:43 pm

The immolation in Tunisia helped spark a revolution. They may obtain freedom there, and I hope it will spark the effort to gain freedom here as well.


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20 Jun 2011, 9:13 pm

Did anyone here actually try to read his manifesto?

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In the last 25 years they have arrested one in six adults in this country and forced 25% of the men, women and children into homelessness. In 50 years it will be one in three adults arrested and 50% of the men, women and children ending up homeless. Most of our kids will live to the age of 68 years old. As bad as it was for you, your children will have twice the odds of it happening to them.


Yeah...

Just a reminder, he started this when he slapped a four year old child in the face for annoying him.


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20 Jun 2011, 9:29 pm

Anyone think of counseling instead of breaking up the family and destroying the guy's financial life beyond any hope of recovery?



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20 Jun 2011, 9:38 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Did anyone here actually try to read his manifesto?

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In the last 25 years they have arrested one in six adults in this country and forced 25% of the men, women and children into homelessness. In 50 years it will be one in three adults arrested and 50% of the men, women and children ending up homeless. Most of our kids will live to the age of 68 years old. As bad as it was for you, your children will have twice the odds of it happening to them.


Yeah...

Just a reminder, he started this when he slapped a four year old child in the face for annoying him.


The child was DEFYING the father. Since many parents are afraid of disciplining their children, the children in many cases grow up to become roving thugs. Would you rather your kid get a minor cut on the lip, or would you rather see the kid wind up in prison when he or she gets older? Is disciplining a child a justification for taking everything this man has and leaving him destitute?

I read the manifesto. It was well written. I was wondering though, why he didn't set the whole building ablaze before himself. The guy is right. Most judges are power hungry cowards. The their eyes, the Constitution can be damned if it goes against the policies and procedures they hold so dear. By the way, when the manifesto was talking about percentages of people who are made homeless, it is not talking about the general population. It is talking about those controlled by the domestic abuse and "family law" industry.

People in the Police States of America do not effectively have any rights. If you don't believe me, ask anyone who has come afoul of any regulatory agency. Like stated earlier, the power hungry judges, bureaucrats, lawyers, etc. care very little about the Constitution or en many cases even the lower laws themselves. The guy has some very proactive suggestions on how to deal with this. Another way of helping to deal with this is a bureaucrat registry. The bureaucrat registry would contain the same information as the sex offender registry but will be for a much more dangerous breed of criminal.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:06 pm

cyberscan wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Did anyone here actually try to read his manifesto?

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In the last 25 years they have arrested one in six adults in this country and forced 25% of the men, women and children into homelessness. In 50 years it will be one in three adults arrested and 50% of the men, women and children ending up homeless. Most of our kids will live to the age of 68 years old. As bad as it was for you, your children will have twice the odds of it happening to them.


Yeah...

Just a reminder, he started this when he slapped a four year old child in the face for annoying him.


The child was DEFYING the father. Since many parents are afraid of disciplining their children, the children in many cases grow up to become roving thugs. Would you rather your kid get a minor cut on the lip, or would you rather see the kid wind up in prison when he or she gets older? Is disciplining a child a justification for taking everything this man has and leaving him destitute?


OMG! The child was DEFYING the father? The ADULT in the situation was being DEFIED by a four-year-old? Do you have children? Because children defy their parents. They test the limits and boundaries of acceptable behavior constantly. If an adult can't handle a four-year-old without resorting to physical violence, that adult lacks adequate parenting skills.

The difference between children who grow into decent adults and children who do not is certainly a matter of parenting, and discipline is a major part of parenting. Did you know that the language root of the word "discipline" is "to teach?" IMO, the only thing you teach a child through physical violence is that you are willing to hurt them. Even if you do believe in corporal punishment, there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed - like hitting a child in the head, and drawing blood. Frankly, had the manifesto author tried that crap on an adult, he would have been arrested - and he would have been convicted. My daughter is respectful, well-mannered, and has a loving heart. She is kind to animals and children and is a great kid - and she has never been hit.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:16 pm

VIDEODROME wrote:
Anyone think of counseling instead of breaking up the family and destroying the guy's financial life beyond any hope of recovery?

Anyone ever think of NOT beating a child in the first place?

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28 Jul 2011, 1:51 pm

looks like he was in the wrong, but are the kids really better off now?