46 shot in NYC over labor day weekend

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John_Browning
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06 Sep 2011, 1:49 am

Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Gunfire erupted today near the massive West Indian Day Parade in Brooklyn -- not far from where Mayor Bloomberg was marching -- as the entire city reeled from a epidemic of shootings over the past two days.

By noon today, a total of 46 people had been shot in the city since Saturday morning, authorities said.

At just before noon, a gunman fired into the air several blocks away from the start of the West Indian Day Parade route in Crown Heights before hopping into a cab and fleeing.

Bloomberg, who has decried the recent spate of gun violence, had just started marching.
Police have a man in custody after he allegedly fired shots into the air at the West Indian Day Parade before fleeing the scene in a cab.

Police have a man in custody after he allegedly fired shots into the air at the West Indian Day Parade before fleeing the scene in a cab.
At 6 a.m., a man was shot in the leg in a McDonald's at 57 Empire Blvd in Brooklyn, and was in stable condition.

At 6 a.m., a man was shot in the leg in a McDonald's at 57 Empire Blvd in Brooklyn, and was in stable condition.

Witnesses said the unidentified gunman got out of the car at E. 94th and Winthrop streets, and then ran off after tossing his gun. Cops caught him down the street after Macing him.

Police then washed the Mace out of his eyes with a carton of milk.

The frightening incident came as people around New York City continued being shot in a frenzy that began early Saturday morning.

Twenty five people had been shot as of 6 a.m. Sunday -- including three kids at a house party-turned-shooting gallery in The Bronx early Sunday.

By early Monday morning, seven more people were shot in four separate incidents in Brooklyn -- one of them fatally.

By noon, another seven people had been shot -- bringing the shocking toll to 46 people injured by gunfire since Saturday morning.

In one incident today Tyrief Gary, 18, was fatally shot to the chest at 12:45 a.m. at 109 E. 54th Street in Brooklyn. Three others were shot during the same incident, all of whom were in stable condition at Kings County Hospital.

Police sources believe that three of the shootings this morning are connected to the pre-dawn festivities leading up to today's West Indian Day parade.

The traditional celebration, known as J'ouvert, has been the scene of numerous shootings in the past, although cops have had it under control in recent years.

Separately, another man was shot in the chest today at 4:24 a.m. at Linden Blvd and Nostrand Avenue. He was in critical condition at Kings County Hospital

At 6 a.m., a man was shot in the leg in a McDonald's at 57 Empire Blvd in Brooklyn, and was in stable condition at the same hospital.

At 11:48 a.m., a 41-year-old man was shot at 7th Avenue and W. 127th St. in Manhattan and taken to Harlem Hospital, where his condition was unknown. A 50-year-old man was in custody and being questioned.

Calling the chilling violence "just unconscionable," Bloomberg demanded that the feds step up their efforts to get illegal weapons off the streets.

"We just cannot continue to have these guns in the hands of kids who don't understand the value of human life," he said.

The crime wave mirrored the city's drug-fueled epidemic of violence in the 1980s and '90s, police sources said.

"Last night was unbelievable," one source said yesterday. "I can't remember a couple of hours like these since the days of crack."

A total of eight people alone were shot at 3:40 a.m. at the out-of-control house party on East 221st Street in The Bronx Sunday, authorities said.

The violence erupted after one man crashed the gig and then got into an argument with another male partygoer, sources said. Each opened fire on the other, spraying the panicked crowd with at least 21 bullets.

"I heard three shots, then a bunch more," said a neighbor who asked that her name be withheld. "Then I heard people going over the fence and women screaming."

Sabine Walters, 48 -- whose daughter threw the "liquor barbecue" bash and whose 11-year-old son, Shaquan, was hit in the right calf by a bullet -- said, "I looked around, screaming, 'Where's my son? Where's my son?' "

Shaquan, his leg wrapped in white gauze, looked terrified as he whimpered to a reporter from his bed at Jacobi Hospital, "My foot hurts."

Police apprehended one unidentified man suspected in the shooting, and were questioning him today.

They said they still are searching for 17-year-old Oneil DaSilva, of Mount Vernon, in connection with the shooting. His rap sheet includes nine arrests for attempted murder, third-degree assault and burglary.

The other two wounded kids were a 13-year-old girl hit in the left thigh and a 14-year-old girl shot in the back. Both were in stable condition last night.

Five men were also shot at the party. A 24-year-old victim, shot twice in the chest, was in critical condition.

The most gravely injured victim in the other shootings was a man shot on East 93rd Street in Brooklyn. He later died.

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06 Sep 2011, 2:09 am

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Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Is that sarcasm? Norway has one of the strictest gun control laws, and yet one guy killed dozens of people there.


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06 Sep 2011, 4:51 am

Is it me or is this article really repetitive :?



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06 Sep 2011, 6:59 am

OddFinn wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Is that sarcasm? Norway has one of the strictest gun control laws, and yet one guy killed dozens of people there.

LOL Yes, it's sarcasm. New York probably has stricter gun laws than Norway and they still had a bunch of [less fatal than Breivik] shootings over the weekend.


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06 Sep 2011, 5:45 pm

Lots of shooting in Crowne Point. No shooting at all in Williamsburg. Hmmmm. I wonder why....

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07 Sep 2011, 4:04 pm

I hate guns. I hate the way they're glorified in the US in every Hollywood movie and TV show. I HATE the NRA and trigger-happy yankee-doodles who who love toting these weapons that cause bloodshed and death. At least where I live in Canada I can still walk down the street without getting shot at. That's one good thing about it...



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07 Sep 2011, 4:12 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I hate guns. I hate the way they're glorified in the US in every Hollywood movie and TV show. I HATE the NRA and trigger-happy yankee-doodles who who love toting these weapons that cause bloodshed and death. At least where I live in Canada I can still walk down the street without getting shot at. That's one good thing about it...


So that explains why the ATF got caught giving guns and hand grenades to the Mexican Drug Cartels.



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07 Sep 2011, 6:08 pm

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Lots of shooting in Crowne Point. No shooting at all in Williamsburg. Hmmmm. I wonder why....

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Hispanics are very law-abiding.



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07 Sep 2011, 6:12 pm

oceandrop wrote:
Is it me or is this article really repetitive :?


Yes, it is. It kind of seems like a sixth grader wrote it.

Okay so let me mention this:

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The traditional celebration, known as J'ouvert, has been the scene of numerous shootings in the past, although cops have had it under control in recent years.


The question is, why didn't cops have it under control this year?

From what I know, new gun legislation was not passed so I am not sure what gun laws have anything to do about this. I don't think gun legislation is the issue. I have reason to suspect that other variables were at play here.

Possibly, due to budget cuts, there were not as many cops patrolling the area like they were in the past? It could be something as simple as people were more stressed out this year than the past years which made them more prone to use their guns.



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07 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I hate guns. I hate the way they're glorified in the US in every Hollywood movie and TV show. I HATE the NRA and trigger-happy yankee-doodles who who love toting these weapons that cause bloodshed and death. At least where I live in Canada I can still walk down the street without getting shot at. That's one good thing about it...


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HATE-HATE-HATE-HATE............

Hate to bust your bubble but there are no shortages of privately owned firearms in Canada.

I've NEVER been shot at here in the gunslinging USA and I don't live in fear of it.

It's alaways a possibility anywhere but why let fear have such a grip.



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11 Sep 2011, 8:01 pm

John_Browning wrote:
Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Your point seems to be that because some people broke the law, the law itself is no good.

That's a rather bizarre leap of logic.

I suspect there were 7-11's that got knocked over during the same time. I suspect there were stolen cars and embezzlements and
fraudulent insurance claims, too.

In fact, I'm certain there were all manner of illegal activies during that time.

By your reasoning, those laws must not be any good, either.



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11 Sep 2011, 8:32 pm

Stone_Man wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Your point seems to be that because some people broke the law, the law itself is no good.

That's a rather bizarre leap of logic.

I suspect there were 7-11's that got knocked over during the same time. I suspect there were stolen cars and embezzlements and
fraudulent insurance claims, too.

In fact, I'm certain there were all manner of illegal activies during that time.

By your reasoning, those laws must not be any good, either.


The law is no good in more ways than that:

1. The law is unconstitutional in that it is an infringement upon the right to bear arms. Hard as it may be to believe, NYC is still part of the USA.

2. The law hinders the law abiding citizen from protecting himself against those that aren’t law abiding.



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12 Sep 2011, 6:06 am

xenon13 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Lots of shooting in Crowne Point. No shooting at all in Williamsburg. Hmmmm. I wonder why....

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Hispanics are very law-abiding.


Williamsburg is the Orthodox Jewish Section of Brooklyn.

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12 Sep 2011, 7:27 pm

Raptor wrote:
Stone_Man wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Good thing they have such strict gun control laws to stop this from happening. :roll:


Your point seems to be that because some people broke the law, the law itself is no good.

That's a rather bizarre leap of logic.

I suspect there were 7-11's that got knocked over during the same time. I suspect there were stolen cars and embezzlements and
fraudulent insurance claims, too.

In fact, I'm certain there were all manner of illegal activies during that time.

By your reasoning, those laws must not be any good, either.


The law is no good in more ways than that:

1. The law is unconstitutional in that it is an infringement upon the right to bear arms. Hard as it may be to believe, NYC is still part of the USA.

2. The law hinders the law abiding citizen from protecting himself against those that aren’t law abiding.


Exactly what I'm getting at. Gun laws hinder people's ability to defend themselves, gun laws usually come with other laws that inhibit people's right to defend themselves by other means, and gun laws don't even stop criminals from getting guns.


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12 Sep 2011, 7:28 pm

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Hispanics are very law-abiding.

Where?


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13 Sep 2011, 1:08 am

This is why I get really annoyed with people are arrogantly insist that the USA is "the greatest country in the world." We have one of the highest crime rates in the industrialized world. When you look at America as a whole, a great deal of it is very dangerous. With all the people being murdered, robbed, raped, and assaulted in our cities-- and no real campaign to do anything about it-- we have a long way to go before we can rightfully claim the "greatest country" title.

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