The siege of Tripoli has begun!

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http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-rebels-att ... 02452.html

Egypt and Tunisia already have voids of power. Libya will soon follow and Syria will be next. I am concerned on what will replace the previous rulers. Possibly something worse.

All I know is that due to a large portion of world leaders are being rotated. Old dictators are being overthrown and democracies/republics are electing new leaders. It creates a whole new opportunity for international tensions to decay.

I don't care if the Syrian leader goes, I would like the Iranian leader to be next. In the case of Iran we have a pretty good idea that the Iranian people would probably choose a more rational government if they could just kick out their oppressor.


Thing of it is, you do realize you're saying something similar to what a certain individual that people here called crazy said monthes ago.

It seems like a rational insightful statement...there is no need to be a bully

I'm not being a bully, I'm just waiting for some people here to apologize to me for calling me crazy for pointing out the fact we could have worse people gaining control of those countries.

Iran is about the only country in the region we kinda know which way it will go if the repressive regime is unseated from power.


In the case of these other countries it is rather likely that fanatics will gain control because the fanatics are the best organized, they had the mosques to organize in for decades, where-as the more secular and I would argue rational parties are just now forming.

It is what Glenn Beck pointed out, and quite frankly I agree with what Beck said because it fits the facts. He was called crazy, I've been called stupid here, so it's kinda fun watching people here months later, saying the same thing I did.

I misunderstood, my apologies.
Anyway, I dont know what all of this getting rid of all these middle eastern leaders is all about, but your both right...it cant be good.
Maybe it is part of the war on terror...I dunno, but Nato is supporting the rebels of many of these countries, such effort must have a reason. The media has been vague as to why this is happening. When the media is vague like that...its not good.
Anyway, Beck is not crazy, nor stupid. I actually agree with some of what he says, but other stuff I dont.
I dont really understand the hatred for unions, for they created the middle class which is important in any economically healthy nation. However with tax loopholes that give tax breaks for sending buisnesses overseas, and american industry shrinking, the middle class is shrinking and it goes back to haves/have-nots

I wish them the best and I hope not too many more people are killed on both sides before this is finished. On one side we have Gaddafi who's supposed to be the bad guy, and on the other the rebels, shouting "Allahu Ahkbar!". It's quite possible that the people will choose something far worse than the secular dictator they had. I'm sure Plato must have said something about this. We've seen this sort of thing before. I'm reminded of how Afghans were assisted in kicking out the Soviets, and what happened since then?

People shouldn't resort to calling you stupid or crazy. People should attack your reasoning and not you. Whenever someone calls you stupid, crazy, or some other insult be mindful it is probably because they don't have a more rational argument. Thus, they have to resort to putting you down. If this is what happened, an apology is needed and deserved.



It is important to keep in mind that when people are angry and riled up, they are generally more willing to accept anyone so long as it is not the person who made them angry in the first place. Fanatics tend to be more dynamic in times of anger too.



Glenn Beck has hits and misses like everyone else. But I find it incredible people use that to quickly dismiss him. I find it logical to listen to what is being said and not minding so much as who is saying it.

For example, just because the Devil himself might say the sky is blue doesn't mean the sky isn't blue.

Couldn't they have just divided the country in two, like it was before the Italians forced East and West Libya together a century ago? Then, we see which one people prefer...

I don't know why NATO are supporting Benghazi in the civil war. I think, if we'd moved to invade when they'd asked us to, Libya would have a hope, and we'd have more oil (well, the protesters were saying we could have the oil if we removed Gadaffe...). However, we left it too long, the sweet spot passed, and then moved in when Benghazi was about to be blitzed. All because of a reckless apathy on the part of the UN, and countries refusing to do anything until the UN said they could. Now, we're facing the possibility of another totalitarian Islamic state in North Africa - even if they do hold elections, people are going to vote for the party which offers stability and strength, even though that same party may outlaw elections once it gets in.

What Africa needs is some regional powers friendly to our interests. Perhaps our Commonwealth may be able to assist here...

it's funny how everyone now is so smart and so sure that what will come next will be even worse. based on what happened in the past? come on, history doesn't work like that. you can't make accurate predictions based on it. times have changed and the mentality of those people have changed. the Internet, Al Jazeera, the global culture have all been contributing to that.

anyway, those guys shouting "Allahu Akbar!" aren't really more scary than your Tea Party movement, only I can understand them better since they're in a situation where their lives are constantly endangered and they aren't just dogmatic for the sake of it.

I for one, wish the freedom fighters all the best, hopefully they will surprise us all and shut all the defeatists up.

I don't think anyone is saying they are sure. However, they have enough reason to be worried that it will be worse. History can give us a clue. And what history tells us is that when leaders leave that quickly and another government is put in, they cannot make quick enough changes to satisfy people. And so people continue to rotate toward more racial people because at least they are more dynamic.



I feel the same way These people have gone through so much with their corrupt leaders. All they want is freedom and the opportunity for the pursuit of happiness and prosperity. But I have reason to suspect that it won't end well. And these reasons are valid.

Gaddafi wouldn't allow it. It is clear by his actions that this man has a love for absolute power.

Looks like it's almost over.

Rebels were 4k from the center, meeting very little opposition from anyone. Sky news has a reporter with them. Now there is a report FF are in the central square.

I feel the same way too.

Something has me thinking pro-Gaddafi forces
will come back and try to take Libya back from rebels.

Let's hope not.

Apparently Kadhafi has now been captured.

Apparently not finally...