Cali mom tosses baby from parking garage

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23 Aug 2011, 11:17 am

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-baby-tossed ... 42460.html

This is a perfect example of why some people shouldn't have kids.



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23 Aug 2011, 11:21 am

Agreed! The weird thing is that this occured right outside the Childrens' Hospital of Orange County in the parking structure. Last I heard, he was in very critical condition. Very sad situation for this baby.


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23 Aug 2011, 1:17 pm

Another media outrage about a mom doing something horrible to her child. But I am still certain bad mothers are the exception, not the rule. You never hear about all the mothers who are good, loving, and caring towards their children every night because who would care about that? :roll: On the other hand, I do think parents are a lot more clueless these days since they're supposed to accomplish so much else before even thinking of raising a kid (finishing high school, going to college, getting a job, etc. etc. etc., and etc.)



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23 Aug 2011, 1:45 pm

I am not defending her actions in any way but this is clearly abnormal, possibly mentally ill behaviour.
Just last year in the UK we have had 2 cases of women becoming so mentally unstable following marriage breakdowns that in both cases they killed ALL their children.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14459954

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-13208067



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23 Aug 2011, 1:48 pm

CosmicRuss wrote:
I am not defending her actions in any way but this is clearly abnormal, possibly mentally ill behaviour.
Just last year in the UK we have had 2 cases of women becoming so mentally unstable following marriage breakdowns that in both cases they killed ALL their children.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14459954

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-13208067


That kind of thing is all too common here in the US. Unfortunately, not everyone is clearly parent material. Nothing has been said about why the baby was dropped off a 4 story parking garage. If she needed help, why didn't she ask at the hospital? She was right there....what ever her reason for doing it. It could have all been avoided.


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23 Aug 2011, 2:18 pm

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....If she needed help, why didn't she ask at the hospital? She was right there....what ever her reason for doing it. It could have all been avoided.
If she was unstable, she probably wasn't aware she needed help and thought what she was doing to be quite normal. At the end of the day it is the innocent children that pay the price which is also sad.



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23 Aug 2011, 2:24 pm

CosmicRuss wrote:
tomboy4good wrote:
....If she needed help, why didn't she ask at the hospital? She was right there....what ever her reason for doing it. It could have all been avoided.
If she was unstable, she probably wasn't aware she needed help and thought what she was doing to be quite normal. At the end of the day it is the innocent children that pay the price which is also sad.


True enough, Cosmic. But where was her support, family who knew her? Someone must have noticed if she was acting odd. Not condemning this woman...just that our system here needs tweaking badly. People often know something is wrong but choose to ignore the facts. They think ignoring them will make the situation go away. Sucks for the baby though...he didn't deserve to be dropped 4 stories.


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23 Aug 2011, 3:27 pm

poor baby :( that woman should be shot.



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23 Aug 2011, 4:42 pm

Why the heck did she do that?



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29 Aug 2011, 4:53 pm

That woman shuold have asked the hospital for help. There's a lot of that going on in America. It happens around the world but it seems to happen more in America.


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29 Aug 2011, 4:57 pm

Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.


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29 Aug 2011, 6:03 pm

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Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.


And this is why I am for parents leaving their partners and child when they can't handle it being special needs and why I am am for giving the baby up for adoption because of special needs. It drives some parents into insanity and then kill their child.


I always find it interesting now that when a parent is sad or stressed out with their baby for whatever reason, it gets blamed on Post Partum depression. Doctors will say that or other women.



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29 Aug 2011, 6:08 pm

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tomboy4good wrote:
Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.


And this is why I am for parents leaving their partners and child when they can't handle it being special needs and why I am am for giving the baby up for adoption because of special needs. It drives some parents into insanity and then kill their child.


I always find it interesting now that when a parent is sad or stressed out with their baby for whatever reason, it gets blamed on Post Partum depression. Doctors will say that or other women.


League Girl, I do agree that it's not a good idea for anyone to leave a mom with these symptoms home alone with the child(ren) in question. The only thing is there's no guarantee that an adopted child will not be abused for any reason. This is not the thread for this discussion, btw. Just saying...adoption does not necessarily prevent abuse as horrible as that sounds. There are plenty of examples: "Mommy Dearest," & the death of a young adopted girl in NYC some 15 or so years ago. I experienced this myself being adopted by an abusive couple.


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29 Aug 2011, 9:21 pm

The baby died several days ago. Last I heard the mom was committed and being kept restrained to protect her from herself and ICE ordered an immigration hold on her. She was probably already nuts and postpartum depression was probably a factor, but to have a really epic family crisis you need alien invaders involved. Why don't they just let her kill herself and save us the trouble of a trial, commitment, or possibly a deportation hearing?


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29 Aug 2011, 11:04 pm

tomboy4good wrote:
CosmicRuss wrote:
I am not defending her actions in any way but this is clearly abnormal, possibly mentally ill behaviour.
Just last year in the UK we have had 2 cases of women becoming so mentally unstable following marriage breakdowns that in both cases they killed ALL their children.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14459954

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-13208067


That kind of thing is all too common here in the US. Unfortunately, not everyone is clearly parent material. Nothing has been said about why the baby was dropped off a 4 story parking garage. If she needed help, why didn't she ask at the hospital? She was right there....what ever her reason for doing it. It could have all been avoided.


we are a country of 300 million so many odd behaviors will be magnified 10 fold, certainly against our neighbor to the north with only 10% of our population, or any neighbor across the pond with a 4th of our size.


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30 Aug 2011, 12:37 am

tomboy4good wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
tomboy4good wrote:
Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.


And this is why I am for parents leaving their partners and child when they can't handle it being special needs and why I am am for giving the baby up for adoption because of special needs. It drives some parents into insanity and then kill their child.


I always find it interesting now that when a parent is sad or stressed out with their baby for whatever reason, it gets blamed on Post Partum depression. Doctors will say that or other women.


League Girl, I do agree that it's not a good idea for anyone to leave a mom with these symptoms home alone with the child(ren) in question. The only thing is there's no guarantee that an adopted child will not be abused for any reason. This is not the thread for this discussion, btw. Just saying...adoption does not necessarily prevent abuse as horrible as that sounds. There are plenty of examples: "Mommy Dearest," & the death of a young adopted girl in NYC some 15 or so years ago. I experienced this myself being adopted by an abusive couple.



Don't forget "A Child Lost Forever" a story about Dennis Jergins who was forced to be given up for adoption because his mother was only 17 when she had him and a ward of the state so she wasn't allowed to keep him. Skip forward 19 years later, she decides to look for him and it turns out he is dead because he was given to a couple and the mother was abusive towards him and she killed him from her abuse.

In real life it was actually 21 years later after the death of him and it happened in 1965 than in 1976. But Lois Jergins was abusive towards him and towards other kids she had adopted and they all had died except for one of them because he was so afraid of her, he never misbehaved or tested any boundaries so he was a "good boy" and never faced her abuse. Then in the 1970's she adopted four more boys who were brothers but they away, including Robert, the "good boy."