School accused of putting autistic student in bag

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23 Dec 2011, 3:06 pm

Here's the article link, but first I'd like to say that parents of ALL kids should home school because the public schools are all lousy. This story is yet another outrage committed against a disabled person--and by people in a position of responsibility, who are old enough to know better. They should be arrested for child abuse, illegal restraint, and child endangerment.

http://news.yahoo.com/school-accused-pu ... 29844.html

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23 Dec 2011, 3:38 pm

That is inexcusable.

The comments section just makes things worse--have you read some of those?

I don't care if the kid was "acting up" or not--there is NO REASON to restrain ANYONE like that!


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23 Dec 2011, 3:58 pm

The story is unclear, but I am not yet persuaded that this is the outrage that many are painting it to be.

The boy's behaviour required intervention--from that moment, he was going to wind up being treated differently. Not because of his disability in se, but because of his inability to function in the classroom environment. Reducing stimulus in a supervised fashion can often be a much more satisfactory way of dealing with disruptive behaviour.

The time he spent in the bag was short (20 minutes, according to the article), he was capable of recognizing his mother's voice and rational enough to explain why he believed he had been put in the bag. Given that it had been used before without any apparent ill effects, I see this as potentially a more reasonable method of dealing with uncontrolled behaviour than other types of restraint or isolation.

Some of us are very well aware of the therapeutic benefits of, say, weighted blankets. I think we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss this without a consideration of its beneficial impacts--not for the school, but also for Christopher.


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23 Dec 2011, 4:29 pm

It makes me sick the way that child was treated.


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23 Dec 2011, 5:41 pm

If my parents didn't take me out of public school to homeschool me when they did, I would have commited sucide years ago. I think I saw this story on the local news.


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23 Dec 2011, 7:07 pm

I would like to see it established that forcing anyone to "function in a classroom environment" is inherently child abuse. Period. Torture. Inhumane. Vile.

I suffered through public school. I even had a few very good teachers. In spite of that, I honestly believe that I could have learned far more just left to my own devices. In fact, I usually did learn more on my own than I learned in school. Public education taught me two things: 1; to be lazy (because I was so far ahead of the required work that I never needed to struggle to do any of it), 2: to loathe being required to do anything "just because" to the point where I am totally unable to endure anything of the sort, even in situations where I am intellectually aware that might be better. I already suffered far too much of it. As a result, I am less fit for living as an adult than I would have been if left alone.


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24 Dec 2011, 2:44 am

"The employees of the Mercer County Public Schools are qualified professionals who treat students with respect and dignity while providing a safe and nurturing learning environment"
Uhuh..does that mean they put a light and some learning materials inside the duffel bag with him?

When my wife was looking for a place for our boy to go to next year she went to one school, where they put a wee boy in a chair and tied him into it with and adults pants belt right in front of her. Took that one off the list..



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24 Dec 2011, 3:02 am

visagrunt wrote:
The story is unclear, but I am not yet persuaded that this is the outrage that many are painting it to be.

The boy's behaviour required intervention--from that moment, he was going to wind up being treated differently. Not because of his disability in se, but because of his inability to function in the classroom environment. Reducing stimulus in a supervised fashion can often be a much more satisfactory way of dealing with disruptive behaviour.

The time he spent in the bag was short (20 minutes, according to the article), he was capable of recognizing his mother's voice and rational enough to explain why he believed he had been put in the bag. Given that it had been used before without any apparent ill effects, I see this as potentially a more reasonable method of dealing with uncontrolled behaviour than other types of restraint or isolation.

Some of us are very well aware of the therapeutic benefits of, say, weighted blankets. I think we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss this without a consideration of its beneficial impacts--not for the school, but also for Christopher.


Being stuffed in a duffel bag is not a weighted blanket. It is ignorance of the worst kind. If he is out of control you take him to a quiet room and let the storm blow over.


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24 Dec 2011, 4:50 am

visagrunt wrote:
The story is unclear, but I am not yet persuaded that this is the outrage that many are painting it to be.

The boy's behaviour required intervention--from that moment, he was going to wind up being treated differently.



Oh yes, it is an outrage. In this day & time, this student was not in an unknown situation with unknown factors. An IEP was made SOMEWHERE along the line & I can guarantee you that stuffing the kid in a bag was NOT agreed upon by the parents.
IEP's in my state are tailored to the child and NOT "finalized" until ALL parties (the parents & the school/faculty) AGREE to all the terms.

I tried homeschooling my daughter for 1st grade & it was a disaster (because I'M the one with Aspergers, not her!) I honestly cannot say whether I would homeschool an Autistic child because I don't have one....but for those parents who do & are, I can only admire them. AND if a parent has decided to NOT homeschool their spectrum child, I admire that, too.



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24 Dec 2011, 12:08 pm

Home schooling is simply not a viable option for a lot of people. Very few can afford it to begin with, and in some cases, such as my own, it's far more work than we could possibly handle. We tried. It didn't work out for a plethora of reasons to numerous to post here. It's a nice dream, but life as it is in today's society makes it impossible for ALL parents to do so. It's great for those who can, but to imagine everyone can do it is just not reasonable.


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24 Dec 2011, 12:20 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Home schooling is simply not a viable option for a lot of people. Very few can afford it to begin with, and in some cases, such as my own, it's far more work than we could possibly handle. We tried. It didn't work out for a plethora of reasons to numerous to post here. It's a nice dream, but life as it is in today's society makes it impossible for ALL parents to do so. It's great for those who can, but to imagine everyone can do it is just not reasonable.


You're undoubtedly right. My point was not that all parents ought to homeschool their children. It was that forcing any children to attend the current system of standardised education which attempts to force individuals to fit a "standard model" is an abuse of human rights. It was not directed at parents, but at the government. No education would be better than the "education" I endured, which taught me all the wrong things.


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24 Dec 2011, 6:48 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Home schooling is simply not a viable option for a lot of people. Very few can afford it to begin with, and in some cases, such as my own, it's far more work than we could possibly handle. We tried. It didn't work out for a plethora of reasons to numerous to post here. It's a nice dream, but life as it is in today's society makes it impossible for ALL parents to do so. It's great for those who can, but to imagine everyone can do it is just not reasonable.


My parents claim they didn't have the option to homeschool me at the time. I don't buy it and today if a school isn't providing the education a child needs, the parents can sue for it. Sometimes being a parent means having to make a sacrafice. Not being able to have cabel TV or telephone is better than being abused every day.


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28 Dec 2011, 2:38 am

MsMarginalized wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
The story is unclear, but I am not yet persuaded that this is the outrage that many are painting it to be.

The boy's behaviour required intervention--from that moment, he was going to wind up being treated differently.



Oh yes, it is an outrage. In this day & time, this student was not in an unknown situation with unknown factors. An IEP was made SOMEWHERE along the line & I can guarantee you that stuffing the kid in a bag was NOT agreed upon by the parents.
IEP's in my state are tailored to the child and NOT "finalized" until ALL parties (the parents & the school/faculty) AGREE to all the terms.

I tried homeschooling my daughter for 1st grade & it was a disaster (because I'M the one with Aspergers, not her!) I honestly cannot say whether I would homeschool an Autistic child because I don't have one....but for those parents who do & are, I can only admire them. AND if a parent has decided to NOT homeschool their spectrum child, I admire that, too.


My daughter is autistic, as am I, and I will freely admit, I could not begin providing her with the special education that she requires. Thankfully, our school district has a grand reputation for providing special education for autistic children. In my daughter's particular grade school, I was happy to learn that tolerance is stressed for children with special needs among the student body. In fact, my little girl, I was told by her teachers and therapists, has many friends among the kids in mainstream classes. I wish I would have experienced that sort of acceptance by my peers as a kid.
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29 Dec 2011, 5:08 pm

That teacher should be fired, even though firing the teacher
just won't be enough.


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29 Dec 2011, 5:37 pm

This was an ill advised and possibly illegal way of controlling the child, but the individuals calling for the educator's heads should answer this question: How would you handle a disorderly child?


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29 Dec 2011, 6:15 pm

If parents did the same thing in their own home it would be classified as abuse.