Israel building the worlds largest prison

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12 Mar 2012, 1:49 pm

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Report: Israel to build largest detention facility in world


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A report says the Tel Aviv regime will soon begin construction of the largest detention facility in the world on the grounds of Ketziot prison in southern Israel.


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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said it was time to stop the “growing influx” of migrants that “threatens Israelis’ jobs.”



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12 Mar 2012, 1:51 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acnEIUKI7_Y[/youtube]

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12 Mar 2012, 2:23 pm

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A report says the Tel Aviv regime will soon begin construction of the largest detention facility in the world on the grounds of Ketziot prison in southern Israel.

They wouldn't have to build that if they were willing to execute terrorists.

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said it was time to stop the “growing influx” of migrants that “threatens Israelis’ jobs.”

They have to protect their job market and keep social services down somehow. We have a identical problem all over the entire southern half of the US, but not quite as bad in Utah, and Arizona. and Alabama.


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13 Mar 2012, 7:51 am

Israel.....



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13 Mar 2012, 8:02 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Israel.....


A nation created and dedicated to the principle: Don't f*ck with the Jews.

The next attempt on the Jews will cost the attacker a price in blood.

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13 Mar 2012, 8:10 am

snapcap wrote:


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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said it was time to stop the “growing influx” of migrants that “threatens Israelis’ jobs.”


LOL, as if not most Israelis are descendants from early migrants.

Law of Return, anyone?



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13 Mar 2012, 11:46 am

They're already the owners of the largest prison in the world. It's called the Gaza Strip. Building a wall around an area, refusing it even medical supplies at times, shooting up international convoys and bombing people isn't cool.
That being strategically ignored, it's still not a surprise that they want the largest prison in the world.

I do have to credit Israel with being the most amazing political entity that ever existed.
Even with most of the world, especially the neighbours, wanting it destroyed, it still exists in relative peace and is allowed to flatly state its intention to violate international treaties.
It's amazing - even Dutch people generally dislike or hate Israel, but any government we can elect will actively and happily support it. We have a party backing up the current coalition now that seems to have insisted on instating a pro-Israel minister for Foreign Affairs named Rosenthal who is widely distrusted and seems completely incompetent, struggling from embarrassing diplomatic mistake to embarrassing diplomatic mistake.

If that isn't effective politics, I don't know what is.



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13 Mar 2012, 12:02 pm

They should get a medal for this :roll:


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13 Mar 2012, 1:27 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
snapcap wrote:


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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier said it was time to stop the “growing influx” of migrants that “threatens Israelis’ jobs.”


LOL, as if not most Israelis are descendants from early migrants.

Law of Return, anyone?


It would be pretty funny if an army cleared out Israel and a group of people just happened to be in the area to "settle" it.

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13 Mar 2012, 1:31 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
They're already the owners of the largest prison in the world. It's called the Gaza Strip. Building a wall around an area, refusing it even medical supplies at times, shooting up international convoys and bombing people isn't cool.
That being strategically ignored, it's still not a surprise that they want the largest prison in the world.

I.


I take it you are referring to the Turkish sponsored gun runners.

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13 Mar 2012, 1:33 pm

ruveyn wrote:
HisDivineMajesty wrote:
They're already the owners of the largest prison in the world. It's called the Gaza Strip. Building a wall around an area, refusing it even medical supplies at times, shooting up international convoys and bombing people isn't cool.
That being strategically ignored, it's still not a surprise that they want the largest prison in the world.

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I take it you are referring to the Turkish sponsored gun runners.

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The convoy is often described by Israel's most ardent supporters as a bunch of gun runners, yes.
However, medical supplies are, apparently, also refused on a regular basis. And it's not even Israel's government in charge of the area.



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13 Mar 2012, 2:44 pm

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The convoy is often described by Israel's most ardent supporters as a bunch of gun runners, yes.
However, medical supplies are, apparently, also refused on a regular basis. And it's not even Israel's government in charge of the area.


What a charming bunch of weasel words. "Apparently," refused on a, "regular," basis... you can tidily sweep any exception under the rug that you've woven there.

Let's get down to a few facts:

1) Israel unilaterally and completely withdrew settlements from Gaza, over the objections of Israel settlers. It is lamentable that she has not been so forthcoming on the West Bank, but nonetheless there is an express recognition that Gaza is and always will be Palestinian territory. To be sure, the blockade of airspace and territorial waters continues, and that is properly criticized as an incomplete disengagement from Gaza--but given that the Quartet imposed economic sanctions on Gaza after Hamas' election, the blockade should not be viewed in isolation.

2) The blockade of Gaza was not undertaken unilaterally by Israel. Gaza has a land border with Egypt, and any Israeli blockade is irrelevant if Gaza has an open border with Egypt. The fact is that Egypt (and more importantly Egypt's military) is just as concerned about the arming of Hamas as Israel is. Throw Lebanon and Jordan into the mix, and suddenly the only state bordering Israel that has an interest in unblocking Gaza is Syria.

3) Palestine is composed of two very different pieces of territory, administered by two very different political parties. Ramallah is a showpiece for what Fatah has been able to achieve on the West Bank. Abbas has stated that Fatah and Israel are agreed in principle on a land swap (though quantum has yet to be settled). So far the only thing that Hamas has been able to negotiate with Israel is a prisoner exchange (though that achievement should not be minimized).

4) Humanitarian aid to Gaza transits the land border daily. Enough? Probably not. And even the relief that does make it through is subject to misappropriation--Hamas has comandeered aid shipments and sold them to the highest bidder, or kept them for its own purposes.

I am a strong proponent of a two-state solution at the earliest opportunity. But that opportunity cannot come until Palestine demonstrates the capacity to be self-governing. Fatah and the regime on the West Bank are most of the way there. Hamas and the regime in Gaza are nowhere. Until Fatah regains political authority over Gaza, and the ability to police its own citizens, the blockade will be a fact of life not only on the Israel and Mediterranean borders imposed by Israel, but also on the Sinai and Red Sea borders imposed by Egypt.


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13 Mar 2012, 2:50 pm

Day in and Day out Snapcap has a new anti-semitic/anti-israel position to spread here...its getting tiresome and its obvious his/her intention. Also, I have no problem calling snap an antisemite based on all the other threads he/she has started blaming Israel/Jews. Its a noticable pattern of obsessive hate behavior.



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13 Mar 2012, 3:29 pm

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Day in and Day out Snapcap has a new anti-semitic position to spread here...


No, you.

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Day in and Day out Snapcap has a new anti-israel position to spread here...


I wouldn't say day in and day out, but you are more or less correct.

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its getting tiresome


Go take a nap.

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and its obvious his/her intention.


What is that? I don't believe you know my intentions correctly, so what exactly do you think they are?

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Also, I have no problem calling snap an antisemite based on all the other threads he/she has started blaming Israel/Jews.


Your position is one of ignorance. I dare you to quote me where I said something anti-semitic so I can tell you you're wrong :lol:

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Its a noticable pattern of obsessive hate behavior.


I'm not obsessed about it. You make it sound like there is nothing I spend more energy on than thinking about how Israel is a terrible place and people. I guarantee I don't. It is my position to not support Israel as it is currently ran. When I see a story that exemplifies my position, I might put it here because (most likely) you're not going to hear about it in the MSM that much if at all. The other side needs to be audible.

"Snapcap is antisemtic/anti-Israel because I don't agree with him"

And there's your argument. 8)



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14 Mar 2012, 3:04 pm

Palestine children traumatized by Israeli jail-report

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Of the hundreds of Palestinian children locked in Israeli jails each year, the vast majority suffer nightmares, bed-wetting and anxiety after their release, Save the Children said in a report published on Monday.


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most of them suspected of rock-throwing.


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"Over 90 percent of these children suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder," al-Araj said.


I guess with a bigger jail, they'll have it equipped with a counseling and rehabilitation wing. :roll:



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14 Mar 2012, 6:49 pm

Am I somehow missing something here? All I got from the videos is of a prison being built to store the black African refugee population In Israel, who the Israeli far right holds in fear and contempt. Otherwise, I fail to see a legitimate Antisemitic threat from these desperate people.
If I come across as offensive to ruveyn and others, I'm sorry, but I have to say, somewhere in the darkness and burning brimstone, Adolf Hitler is laughing.

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