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Aspertastic424
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29 Oct 2012, 9:13 pm

As a person with aspergers, Im trying to decide which candidate would be good for people with autism, ( or at least not harmful!)

I generally would say the democrat would be better, but it seems Obama has done little to nothing for Autism, ( though to be fair, the man has a lot on his plate!)

Idk, Im afriad of Iran, and want the economy jumpstarted, think lower taxes will be better for that. We need more economic growth. Im for Romney, but I hope he wont throw autistics under the bus!



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29 Oct 2012, 9:17 pm

Asking people on the spectrum actually wouldn't be a very good idea.

If you have someone on the spectrum that is conservative they're going to say Romney.

If the person is liberal they are going to be shilling for Obama.

The best thing for you is to look through the facts and make your own decision, not get someone else's opinion on this.

That means you also should ignore the campaign rhetoric of Republicans want to throw people with Autism out in the street BS...



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29 Oct 2012, 10:09 pm

Aspertastic424 wrote:
As a person with aspergers, Im trying to decide which candidate would be good for people with autism, ( or at least not harmful!)

I generally would say the democrat would be better, but it seems Obama has done little to nothing for Autism, ( though to be fair, the man has a lot on his plate!)

Idk, Im afriad of Iran, and want the economy jumpstarted, think lower taxes will be better for that. We need more economic growth. Im for Romney, but I hope he wont throw autistics under the bus!


I don't know of anything Romney has said that is relevant to Autism one way or the other, other than that he said when asked that his plan for Autism was to:
"cure disease and cure conditions that cause disability and at the same time creates new science and opens up new enterprises for our economy."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/1 ... ith-Autism

Regarding Obama, he makes a big deal about an executive order he issued in 2010 to promote the hiring and employment of people with disabilities (including Asperger's Syndrome) by the federal government and to encourage the use of Schedule A in applications.

Text of the order
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... sabilities

Their official policy statement (on all related issues)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/disabilities

There's apparently a "disabilities for Obama" group if you can believe that (don't know why) and one of the "stories" is from an Autistic, though personally I don't put much stock in human interest stories.
http://www.barackobama.com/people-with- ... es/stories

Some might add that Obamacare when implemented will make it easier to get insurance with preexisting conditions (which Asperger's Syndrome counts as if you've been treated for it (w/medication or therapy))



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29 Oct 2012, 10:37 pm

Here is a list of some of the things that Obama has done that may be relevant to you.

Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides
health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured
Increased minority access to capital
Health Care Reform Bill, preventing insurance companies from denying insurance because of a pre-existing condition
Health Care Reform Bill, allowing children to remain covered by their parents' insurance until the age of 26
Tax cuts for up to 3.5 million small businesses to help pay for employee health care coverage
Tax credits for up to 29 million individuals to help pay for health insurance
Expansion of Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level
Require health insurance plans to disclose how much of the premium actually goes to patient care
Added 4.6 billion USD to the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals
Significantly increased funding for the Violence Against Women Act
liminated subsidies to private lender middlemen of student loans and protect student borrowers
Significantly expanded Pell grants, which help low-income students pay for college
Expanded hate crime law in the US to include sexual orientation through the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act
Signed financial reform law establishing a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to look out for the interests of everyday Americans
Provided $12.2 Billion in new funding for Individuals With Disabilities Education Act
Created more private sector jobs in 2010 than during entire Bush years
Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
Developed stimulus package, which includes approx. $18 billion for nondefense scientific research and development
Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system



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29 Oct 2012, 10:42 pm

I feel kind of silly now for thinking this thread might actually have been kept relevant to the OP... :(



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29 Oct 2012, 10:54 pm

Pyrite wrote:
I feel kind of silly now for thinking this thread might actually have been kept relevant to the OP... :(

In what way was this thread not kept relevant to the OP?



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29 Oct 2012, 11:06 pm

Marybird wrote:
Pyrite wrote:
I feel kind of silly now for thinking this thread might actually have been kept relevant to the OP... :(

In what way was this thread not kept relevant to the OP?


He asked about positions on Autism and you responded by telling someone who lists their gender as "male" that the Lilly Ledbetter and Violence Against Women acts may have helped him (?). Along with a laundry list of other random Obama policy stuff. There's maybe one or two things on that entire list that are related to Autism.



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29 Oct 2012, 11:19 pm

Pyrite wrote:
Marybird wrote:
Pyrite wrote:
I feel kind of silly now for thinking this thread might actually have been kept relevant to the OP... :(

In what way was this thread not kept relevant to the OP?


He asked about positions on Autism and you responded by telling someone who lists their gender as "male" that the Lilly Ledbetter and Violence Against Women acts may have helped him (?). Along with a laundry list of other random Obama policy stuff. There's maybe one or two things on that entire list that are related to Autism.

He asked which candidate would be good for people with Autism. Not about positions on Autism specifically.



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29 Oct 2012, 11:58 pm

Marybird wrote:
Pyrite wrote:
Marybird wrote:
Pyrite wrote:
I feel kind of silly now for thinking this thread might actually have been kept relevant to the OP... :(

In what way was this thread not kept relevant to the OP?


He asked about positions on Autism and you responded by telling someone who lists their gender as "male" that the Lilly Ledbetter and Violence Against Women acts may have helped him (?). Along with a laundry list of other random Obama policy stuff. There's maybe one or two things on that entire list that are related to Autism.

He asked which candidate would be good for people with Autism. Not about positions on Autism specifically.


I thought his asking for example about what Obama "had done for Autism" sort of implied that....



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30 Oct 2012, 12:31 am

@ Aspertastic424:
I think Obama has done a lot to help people with disabilities, and he can do even more if we get more Democrats into congress so he won't have to make so many compromises with things like health care.
The economy has always done better in times when taxes were lowered for middle class and the wealthy were made to pay their share.



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30 Oct 2012, 12:35 am

I don't think either of them can help us personally, as autistic people. But I'm voting for who I think can help America and in my opinion that's Mitt Romney. It's not Obama in my opinion..



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30 Oct 2012, 12:50 am

With the rampant whining and constant bickering of the republicans, and their various mudslung threats to end this and that, and cut each other that we may as well hand them knives and ask them to simply settle with a duel instead of throwing words, and with Mitt Romney having flopped more than a dying fish on the pavement, and with them threatening to end the Affordable Healthcare act, even though they birthed it themselves; purely to spite Obama, I feel that while Obama may not be all that grand, he's several kilometers ahead of that spineless rat Romney. And this isn't even beginning to cover Two-face Ryan.


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30 Oct 2012, 1:23 am

As not only an Aspie, but also the parent of an autistic child, there has been an increase in funding for special education under Obama, and that's quite a lot by itself, in my opinion.

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31 Oct 2012, 8:22 am

Inuyasha wrote:
The best thing for you is to look through the facts and make your own decision, not get someone else's opinion on this.

That means you also should ignore the campaign rhetoric of Republicans want to throw people with Autism out in the street BS...
Can you really not see the contradiction in this statement? 8O

If you tell someone the best thing they can do is to find the facts and make their own decision, without being swayed by other opinions - you can't then give them your opinion and tell them what to ignore in the very next sentence.


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31 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

I think Inuyasha's point was more aimed at trying to get the OP to truly investigate what is the real view and thus action and consequence of a candidate vs. what sound bytes are heard about a candidate when that candidate's views are vocalized by an opposing party in order to win an election.



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31 Oct 2012, 4:03 pm

JoeDirt wrote:
I think Inuyasha's point was more aimed at trying to get the OP to truly investigate what is the real view and thus action and consequence of a candidate vs. what sound bytes are heard about a candidate when that candidate's views are vocalized by an opposing party in order to win an election.


Or maybe the second part was in case the OP decided not to listen to the first part. :)