America forces the oldest Swiss bank to close.
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/US ... d=32019008
The suits in DC have to have their taxes, even if it means bullying a business incorporated in another sovereign nation.
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The US did not force the bank to close; the bank closed rather than face legal action.
Over here, tax evasion has become a serious issue. If the Swiss banks won't help the U.S. catch these tax cheats, then to Hell with them!
Look to places like Greece to see what future tax evasion brings.
The US did not force the bank to close; the bank closed rather than face legal action.
Over here, tax evasion has become a serious issue. If the Swiss banks won't help the U.S. catch these tax cheats, then to Hell with them!
They forced the bank to close by bullying them.
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Non American accounts were placed in a new company, American accounts held by the old, for long enough to close them.
Not having any American accounts, no obligation to inform on ex customers.
All of the American accounts can be moved to another new bank.
The deal just done extended the right of corporations to hold profits offshore, without paying tax.
There is nothing illegal about having an offshore bank account. A lot of people do it because the wife cannot get to it. They report their income, pay their taxes, but no divorce lawyer or IRS desk jockey can take or freeze their money.
There is a special tax rate for offshore companies, with the intent of making them able to do worldwide business.
Most major American Corporations, are in Delaware, or the Bahamas, Grand Caymen, and report taxable income where it was made.
The main question, Does a person have the right to refuse to testify against themselves?
While it has been twisted to say not incriminate themselves, pleading the 5th, the original meaning was, that in no way does a person have to help the government make a case against them.
Name and address is it, after that, please direct that question to my lawyer.
Lawyer up, for many people have been sent to jail for telling the FBI they knew nothing, then being convicted based on that. "He said he knew nothing about his brother, which was a lie, for he admitted having a brother."
The FBI was formed in the mid thirties, to counter Stalin and Beria, Hitler and the Gestapo, and all three used the same tactics.
If the FBI is investigating someone they must be guilty of something, and so are you if you do not inform on them, just make something up, the country needs you. If you do not inform, you are guilty of the same crime, and witholding evidence.
They have been getting away with donating stolen goods to churches, then not only busting them for selling stolen goods, but shooting them to death in the process.
America has a long history of banks closing. A Letter of Credit from a Swiss bank is Gold. Doing business in Europe, the rest of the world, Swiss is best.
If you have ever tried to wire transfer funds to Europe to make a payment, you would know the American System sucks. Getting paid from Europe, the bank will withhold 35% for potential tax liability. That is more than the shipping yet to be paid, and the profit.
So open an offshore account, the money is there next day, or your payment is in the bank.
If you are making money, the last person you want to know is your banker. Based on your deposits they will loan money to their cousin to buy what you were buying when for some reason your payment does not go through, and sell it to your customer who you failed to deliver to. If your banker knows both ends, you are dead.
For this business uses a chain of banks, transfering funds to the bank your customer uses, in your name, then transfer to your customer within the bank. Payments from customers go to a clearing bank.
Anyone who knows the whole pattern can steal your most valuable business. Then a bank you do not owe money forecloses and freezes your bank accounts, assets, and locks your building. A year later when it is cleared up, someone else has your business.
The IRS sells intelligence. They hate people they cannot spy on.
Congress is exempt from Insider Trading Laws, so they can short your stock then pass rules to sink you.
A Delaware Corp to pay American taxes, things of value, held in the Bahamas, banking between the Swiss, and the Caymens, and not keeping the records in one place, database, but sectioned on a need to know basis.
Non related third parties are often used to make payments, for your supplier would also like to know the final customer.
Money in a Swiss Bank is the Gold Standard. A few after tax millions that stand behind Letters of Credit, and accept payments, pays no interest above the fees for the transactions. It does not make money, it allows for money to be made.
Coming into America, laptop hard drives, flash drives, are taken, because they might contain business information. That is the same as going in your house without warrent, going through your personal papers, looking to see what they might find.
Government considers themselves to be the law. Evidence shows they are the crooks.
Lot of people have stock that they have owned for years, and unrealized Capital Gains. As long as they hold, no tax due. So what next, a rule that all stock must be sold, so the government can tax it?
If I have 10,000 shares of Apple bought 20 years ago in my safe, bought with after tax dollars, does the government have a right to break into my safe?
What if they are in a safe deposit box in a Swiss bank, and pledged to back Letters of Credit? I have an account, the in and out cancels, sometimes there are millions in the account, sometimes next to nothing. Should the IRS take the account? Is it on me to prove I do not owe taxes?
Funds deposited were exchanged for Gold at $300 an ounce, and kept in the vault. Now worth $1600, do I owe taxes? I have also borrowed 90% of the value which is in the account. I have not made a penny,
Should I have to explain this to some low wage IRS Thug?
The law says I have to report an offshore bank account, but not my ownership of an offshore corporation that has a bank account.
The government has driven themselves broke, and now are on a bloodsucking rampage, and want to take away all of the guns.
Walmart bribed Mexico, so did the US Embassy if they wanted water, phonelines, sewer, electric. Nothing moves without money. What is illegal for an American company, is just world business to an offshore Corp.
Multinationals are bribing the US Government to crack down on everyone else. They want all the business. They hired spies, bankers and such, when they went on a buying spree and sent American manufacturing jobs abroad. Now they are going after the internationals.
Not so much OFF SHORE, as tax free. (since Delaware is actually a state and, while tax free, discloses... well everything) Unless I'm mistaken. Either way, no harm no foul. If you're not hiding your assets, there's no reason to raise a fuss when they're discovered. Right?
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Look to places like Greece to see what future tax evasion brings.
The Greeks that own businesses evade taxes in order to simply get by another day. Not only are they getting crushed under the taxes and economic stagnation they bring, but they also resent far left voters voting to take their money to finance welfare services for young socialist brats that refused to work or deliberately stayed underemployed for years before the economic crisis.
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Not so much OFF SHORE, as tax free. (since Delaware is actually a state and, while tax free, discloses... well everything) Unless I'm mistaken. Either way, no harm no foul. If you're not hiding your assets, there's no reason to raise a fuss when they're discovered. Right?
:Snort: Delaware has a business court that is very fast and (until recently) friendly towards management of corporations. It also has some of the loosest usery laws in the country. If he's talking about the "Delaware Holding Company", I think there's a big difference between Delaware declining to tax some types of income and what his bank was accused of doing.
Delaware is by no means tax free, it just does'nt have a sales tax. They make up for it with a gross receipts tax, personal income taxes, corporate taxes, and property taxes. They are nicknamed the "Plastic State" because of the power of DuPont (plastics) and the Credit Card companies (plastic).
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True, Delaware does have taxes, but only on business done in Delaware.
Delaware Corporations do pay taxes, Federal, if any are owed.
If Privately Held, it is near impossible, if not impossible, to find out who owns the Corporation, which is what the Swiss banker was saying.
To a non resident, it has the lowest burden of reporting, the Courts do set the standard for Business Law, and they are quick.
Most of The Fortune 500 are Delaware Corporations.
Lawyers want to bring cases to East Texas, Intellectual Property, because the jury pool is small and uneducated.
Delaware Corporate Cases are not jury, a Special Master rules, and the case law is established, in and out in a month or less.
Usery is a religious law, which in practice is the Loansharks Protection Act. Would you cap the earnings of a grain farmer during a famine? Sometimes companies, people, face the loss of a lot, due to short term conditions, and will pay for a bridge loan. Credit Cards are reasonable if you pay in full every month, but use them for a loan company, you pay high rates.
A Delaware Corporation can be owned by a Bahama Corporation, where the bank account is kept, and it owns the Intellectual Property. It does not pay Bahama taxes, which is how American Corporations hold trillions offshore. This was just upheld in the Cliff Deal.
The funds are taxable when they return, but not when being held offshore.
They are Tax Deferred until they enter the US. Congress and the President just upheld this.
So how is it that funds held in a Swiss Bank are not the same?
Most major US Corporations are headquartered or have another branch in the Bahamas. The Delaware Corporation is a Shell, it has no assets, it's main function is, you have to sue me here.
A Corporation is a person under the law, so am I. For $100 in Delaware I can be both. For $1500 in the Bahamas, Grand Caymen, I can be a Multi National.
Taking my after tax income I can fund a Corporation, that then opens a bank account, another in Europe, that is the clearing house and paymaster for my world trade.
I can own stock in other markets. say a German listed company. Just because I am a Share Holder, I do not have to report the companies bank accounts to the IRS. The same holds if I am the only share holder.
I may have dealings with a bank, Swiss, and if you could find out what, it may be a safe deposit box. Should the bank have to send that to the IRS? Should American Agents go and open it? Should the contents be held by a court until I can prove I am Innocent?
Why are you objecting to a full cavity body search every time you fly Comrad, if you are not hiding anything, why should you object?
I object because under due process of law, there is only one class of citizen, and before investigating them, evidence must be produced in court to convince a Judge to issue a warrent, for the search of any person, place or thing, for more evidence of a specific crime as defined under the law.
Of course there are those who think The Constitution is just a piece of paper. Many many others have found it a reason to fight, kill, die, to preserve it, and all of our elected officals must swear to uphold it.
The Government is not the Law.
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