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31 Dec 2012, 9:53 pm

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01 Jan 2013, 1:57 am

Far out!


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01 Jan 2013, 11:26 am

Our multi-billion dollar rover will beam back data once again proving that Mars is a piece of sh*t planet.

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01 Jan 2013, 12:35 pm

Where do you think the money should go?


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01 Jan 2013, 4:46 pm

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Where do you think the money should go?

Back into the pockets of the citizens that earned it.

Except for defense, there is nothing in the Constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to build rocket ships to Mars.

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01 Jan 2013, 5:20 pm

ruveyn wrote:
justkillingtime wrote:
Where do you think the money should go?

Back into the pockets of the citizens that earned it.

Except for defense, there is nothing in the Constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to build rocket ships to Mars.

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is there anything in the constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to install streetlights and use insane amounts of electricity?



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01 Jan 2013, 5:46 pm

My experience has been that no matter what they say, the money I earned is taken out of my pocket and put in someone else's pocket. I'd rather have it go to the Mars Rover than to an individual having many estates, etc.


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01 Jan 2013, 6:24 pm

aspi-rant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
justkillingtime wrote:
Where do you think the money should go?
Back into the pockets of the citizens that earned it. Except for defense, there is nothing in the Constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to build rocket ships to Mars. ruveyn
is there anything in the constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to install streetlights and use insane amounts of electricity?

No. It's not in the Bible, either.

So one simply MUST conclude that both electricity and space exploration are not only un-American, but anti-Christian, as well!



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01 Jan 2013, 6:34 pm

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01 Jan 2013, 8:42 pm

aspi-rant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
justkillingtime wrote:
Where do you think the money should go?

Back into the pockets of the citizens that earned it.

Except for defense, there is nothing in the Constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to build rocket ships to Mars.

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is there anything in the constitution authorizing the government to tax citizens to install streetlights and use insane amounts of electricity?


State, county and city governments have this taxation power. The Central government does not. Read the constitution and the 17 enumerated powers of congress. The Central government can build post roads. There is no provision for the Central government to build rocket ships except as implements of war. The Constitution does not grant Congress any power to tax to support exploration.

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01 Jan 2013, 8:48 pm

ruveyn wrote:
The Constitution does not grant Congress any power to tax to support exploration.


that's very interesting… and very odd.

that could mean stagnation and dark ages, if nobody else would do the exploration that potential could benefit the nation...



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01 Jan 2013, 9:43 pm

Don't worry. China will do the exploring.


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03 Jan 2013, 1:00 am

ruveyn wrote:
Our multi-billion dollar rover will beam back data once again proving that Mars is a piece of sh*t planet.

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But had it always been? There's only one way to find out, and that's to either send the rover there, or go there, ourselves. Do it for Bradbury.

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03 Jan 2013, 1:46 am

Corporate and Agency Welfare Fraud.

Mars offers nothing, it is a dead rock, and the very expensive history of a dead rock can only solve religious questions, part way. No life on Mars, the Earth is everything.

So that leads my Earth based thinking to wonder, how many trees could be planted for what this cost?

Advancing Science at the cost of retarding Education?

By a rough guess, a pipeline from the Great Lakes, from Canada to Mexico, and a hundred miles of forest, would cost less than the launch, and would change the climate in our favor forever.

The West is becoming like Mars, it can be stopped.

When you do not support your own land, children, future, first, there will not be a later.

I am not Faith Based about Climate Change, be it caused by people, or a natural event, our task is the same, to prepare the land for the next generation who are likely to have it a lot rougher.

They need tree line buffers, pipelines, and lots of education.

When the survival of the next generation is one the line, government waste on Corporate useless projects is murder.

There is nothing we can find or learn on Mars that makes any sense with the known problems we are facing.

The drought rages on, dust is starting to blow, harvests are declining.

Preserving life on Earth comes first.



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08 Jan 2013, 2:37 pm

I was ten years old in 1975 (England) and listened to my teacher tell the whole class that by 2015 man will be walking on mars.

38 years later we have just about managed to prop a robot up in the right position so it can scan the landscape of mars.

Mankind has much more to learn and understand than we already know, that’s for sure. We don't even have a clue to how our own minds works...



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08 Jan 2013, 2:40 pm

Inventor wrote:
Corporate and Agency Welfare Fraud.

Mars offers nothing, it is a dead rock, and the very expensive history of a dead rock can only solve religious questions, part way. No life on Mars, the Earth is everything.

So that leads my Earth based thinking to wonder, how many trees could be planted for what this cost?

Advancing Science at the cost of retarding Education?

By a rough guess, a pipeline from the Great Lakes, from Canada to Mexico, and a hundred miles of forest, would cost less than the launch, and would change the climate in our favor forever.

The West is becoming like Mars, it can be stopped.

When you do not support your own land, children, future, first, there will not be a later.

I am not Faith Based about Climate Change, be it caused by people, or a natural event, our task is the same, to prepare the land for the next generation who are likely to have it a lot rougher.

They need tree line buffers, pipelines, and lots of education.

When the survival of the next generation is one the line, government waste on Corporate useless projects is murder.

There is nothing we can find or learn on Mars that makes any sense with the known problems we are facing.

The drought rages on, dust is starting to blow, harvests are declining.

Preserving life on Earth comes first.


I agree with your observations.

However, if private parties want to invest their own money in either going to Mars or sending exploration vehicles their, I have no objection. There money, their choice of investments and purchases.

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