It is now official. the Sea Shepherds are pirates1

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ruveyn
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28 Feb 2013, 9:06 am

A US court has declared the conservation group Sea Shepherd to be "pirates" and ordered it to stop its aggressive actions against Japanese whalers.

The ruling was issued on Wednesday by chief judge Alex Kozinski of the 9th US circuit court of appeals.

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Keel-haul the bastards. Arrrghhh. And hang'em from the highest yardarm.

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28 Feb 2013, 9:49 am

Well, they still have my support - pirates or not. Hoist the Jolly Roger.



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28 Feb 2013, 9:57 am

Funny, i thought they would be considered terrorists.


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28 Feb 2013, 10:45 am

Great news! Looking forward to the Japanese navy f**king their sh*t up.



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28 Feb 2013, 11:46 am

I think we should just kill all the whales and be done with it forever...... huh ????



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28 Feb 2013, 12:34 pm

I doubt this will make any real difference in the short term since Sea Shepard don't operate in U.S. waters.

I will be interesting to see what legal action Japan can now take, as mentioned by the BBC.

Regarding the recent clashing in Australian waters, there is an ongoing case in the International Court of Justice between Japan and Australia.



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28 Feb 2013, 12:46 pm

shiver me timbers.

i hope none of the japanese fishermen have to walk the gangplank.

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28 Feb 2013, 12:55 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
i hope none of the japanese fishermen have to walk the gangplank.


Quick, someone declare those fishermen Ninjas and we'll soon get an answer to that age old question...


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28 Feb 2013, 1:30 pm

Ichinin wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
i hope none of the japanese fishermen have to walk the gangplank.


Quick, someone declare those fishermen Ninjas and we'll soon get an answer to that age old question...
yo ho ho and a bottle of rum


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28 Feb 2013, 2:09 pm

tourettebassist wrote:
I think we should just kill all the whales and be done with it forever...... huh ????


If the whales the Japanese are hunting were actually endangered, then you might have a point. There are some species of whales that are endangered, but I don't think anyone is going after them now.

With their deplorable and violent actions, the Sea Shepherds are a bunch of terrorists as far as I'm concerned.

Earlier in the whaling season, the Federal Courts ordered the Sea Shepherd terrorists to maintain a minimal distance from the Japanese ships. In response, the Sea Shepherds have ramped up the level of violence that they are using against the Japanese.

It wouldn't bother me at all if the Japanese brought out the military and captured the pirate ships, took them back to Japan, and put every single one of them on trial for piracy.



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28 Feb 2013, 2:11 pm

ICY wrote:
Regarding the recent clashing in Austrian waters, there is an ongoing case in the International Court of Justice between Japan and Austria.


I think you mean Australia. If I remember my geography correctly, Austria is landlocked. :)



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28 Feb 2013, 3:27 pm

if they save a whale or a dolphin will they burry it on a desert island.


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28 Feb 2013, 3:49 pm

The Sea Shepherds lie with impunity. The truth means nothing to them. It is all spin.

For example, they willingly ram Japanese ships and then claim that the Japanese ship rammed them.

The history of the Sea Shepherds includes their sinking ships.

1979: A Sea Shepherd vessel rams the whaling vessel “Sierra”, causing considerable damage. “Sierra” survives attack.

1980: The IWC at its meeting in Brighton, United Kingdom, assigns high-level protection to two Canadian Government delegates after Watson threatened to kill them for voting against a moratorium on sperm whales. Delegates given Royal Canadian Mounted Police protection until their return home to Canada.

1980: The “Sierra” is sunk in Lisbon harbour. Sea Shepherd claims responsibility. Investigation shows limpet mines used to blow up the vessel.

1981: Sea Shepherd claims responsibility for the sinking of the two whaling vessels, Ibsa I and Ibsa II, in the Spanish harbour of Viga.

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1986: Sea Shepherd attempts to stop Faroe Islands pilot whale harvest. Using rifles, Sea Shepherd activists shoot at Faroe Islands police in an attempt to sink their rubber dinghies. The vessel “Sea Shepherd” was ordered to leave Faroese territorial waters. The police report of 7 October 1986 states: “One of the rubber dinghies was attacked directly by a “Speed Line” line rifle. The attack … endangered the lives of the police crewmembers ... and signal flares containing phosphorous was thrown at the police. At a later stage the Sea Shepherd used “toads” (rotating iron spikes, pointed and sharp at both ends) against the rubber dinghies … petrol was poured over the side of the ship and signal flares were thrown from the “Sea Shepherd” in an attempt to set the petrol on fire.”

1986: Sea Shepherd claims responsibility for the sinking of two whaling vessels in Reykjavik, Iceland, and for malicious damage to a whaling station. (This act of violence was carried out after Iceland stopped whaling in line with the IWC moratorium on commercial whaling.) Attack carried out by Sea Shepherd members Rodney A. Coronado and David Howitt. (Coronado linked to Animal Liberation Front and arrested eight years later by United States FBI for his part in an ALF attack on Michigan State University research laboratory. Charges included use of an explosive device, theft and arson.)

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1991: A US crew member on a Mexican fishing vessel, reports that Sea Shepherd, some of whose crew were armed with rifles, rammed his vessel causing considerable damage.

1991: Scott Trimmingham, president of Sea Shepherd quits in protest. “We had rules about not hurting anyone, about not using weapons. I left because those rules and that philosophy seems to be changing.” Outside magazine (Sept. 1991). Paul Watson admits there are arms on board “Sea Shepherd”. “We confront dangerous people. As the captain, it is my responsibility to protect the lives of my crew ... Therefore, I have prepared myself for the possibility of defending my crew in a situation that could go never occur, but if it does I will use firearms to first intimidate and then to defend,” Watson tells the Los Angeles Free Weekly (April 24, 1992).

1992: Sea Shepherd makes unsuccessful attempts at ramming three Costa Rican fishing vessels. In a written complaint to the local authorities the fishermen report that the Sea Shepherd crew shot at them with bullets containing a red substance, hitting two of them and causing them great pain.

1992: Sea Shepherd makes unsuccessful attempt at scuttling the whaling and fishing vessel “Nybræna” at her moorings in the Lofoten Islands, northern Norway. Attack committed by Paul Watson, girlfriend Lisa DiStefano and one other Sea Shepherd member. Watson later states: “The scuttling of the Nybræna was not a terrorist or criminal act. We were responsible for removing an instrument of death and destruction without causing death or injury.” Charges laid against Watson, who fails to turn up in court. Watson convicted in absentia and sentenced to 120 days in prison.

1992: Sea Shepherd vessel “Whales Forever” collides with Norwegian Coast Guard vessel “Andenes” on July 4. Charges against Paul Watson include negligent navigation, refusal to leave Norwegian waters on orders of the Coast Guard and transmitting false distress signals. (Tape supplied)

1993: Paul Watson orders the crew on board the Sea Shepherd vessel “Edward Abbey” (formerly US Navy) to open cannon fire at a Japanese fishing vessel. Sea Shepherd crew do not carry out the order, but instead fire a shot across the bow of the Japanese vessel. The Japanese vessel does not stop. (Recorded by Yorkshire Television Documentary “Defenders of the Wild – Ocean Rider”.)

1993: Paul Watson claims in an open letter to the people of Norway that Sea Shepherd has sunk eight ships and rammed and damaged a further six vessels. In the same letter, he states: “The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is a law abiding organization. We rigidly adhere to and respect the laws of nature or lex natura. We hold the position that the laws of ecology take precedence over the laws designed by nation states to protect corporate interests … the smell of guilt is already a stench in the nostrils of God.”

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2002: Watson tells Animal Rights 2002 Conference in Washington DC that if a person dies from one of his actions, he would consider it “collateral damage”. He believes it is not possible to “commit violence against non-sentient objects. Property damage is not violence.”


Watson and the crews involved and those funding these activities have no respect for the law or for others. If life was fair, they would all rot in jail.



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28 Feb 2013, 4:04 pm

eric76 wrote:
I think you mean Australia. If I remember my geography correctly, Austria is landlocked. :)


The Austrian-Hungarian empire had a navy until 1918.


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28 Feb 2013, 4:07 pm

eric76 wrote:
ICY wrote:
Regarding the recent clashing in Austrian waters, there is an ongoing case in the International Court of Justice between Japan and Austria.


I think you mean Australia. If I remember my geography correctly, Austria is landlocked. :)


Fixed, thanks.



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28 Feb 2013, 10:23 pm

You ain't a pirate if you don't roll out the cannons and board the enemy vessel with pistol and cutlass.

What happens on the high seas should also stay on the high seas; there's got to be a place left where people can shoot cannons at each other (or purely a one-sided affair) without "the man" getting involved.