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03 Apr 2013, 12:33 pm

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... 040213.pdf

When 4% of your population believes that shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form, you know you're in trouble.

Even if those 4% are w*kers, there are some bigger percentages for equally ridiculous propositions.


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03 Apr 2013, 12:48 pm

One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.



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03 Apr 2013, 12:55 pm

That is nothing compared to what a lot of other countries have to cope with.


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03 Apr 2013, 1:15 pm

I've never heard of shape-shifting reptilian people taking over the world. Bilderberg people, yes, and even then I don't know how much of that is true.



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03 Apr 2013, 1:43 pm

Hmm...

Q10 - Do you believe aliens exist, or not?

And this is a conspiracy theory? Extremely sloppy survey design.



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03 Apr 2013, 2:47 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Hmm...

Q10 - Do you believe aliens exist, or not?

And this is a conspiracy theory? Extremely sloppy survey design.


That provides a level of control on the results. By including questions that are related in theme, but which differ in substance, you can gauge the honesty of responses. We expect a higher level of response to "do you believe aliens exist" (which merely questions the potential for extraterrestrial life) than the question "do you believe that an alien spacecraft landed in Roswell, and that the government is covering it up."


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03 Apr 2013, 7:12 pm

eric76 wrote:
One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.


In the nineteenth century the theory that the American Indians are all really "the Lost Tribe of Israel" was popular ( I believe that it may still be woven into Mormonism to this day), but I've never heard of this idea!

All of us?
If our forefathers came on the Mayflower, or through Ellis Island, or on slave ships from Africa, or snuck across the Rio Grande yesterday, or were of the first nations,are ALL of the lost tribe of Israel?

Boggles the mind how that could be possible!



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03 Apr 2013, 10:35 pm

Us being alone is statistically impossible.

However, the Reptilian Illuminati claim is absurd.


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03 Apr 2013, 11:21 pm

PPP has been noted as left leaning so that has to be taken into consideration.
I've heard that most of those beliefs exist in some people's minds but the percentages they give as a survey result are either inflated or the poll itself was selective.

Here are the nuttier ones:
• 20% of Republicans believe that President Obama is the Anti-Christ, compared to 13% of independents and 6% of Democrats who agree.
• 51% of Americans believe there was a larger conspiracy at work in the JFK assassination.
• 5% of respondents believe that Paul McCartney died and was secretly replaced in the Beatles in 1966.
• 4% believe shape-shifting reptilian people :roll: control our world by taking on human form and gaining power.


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03 Apr 2013, 11:59 pm

visagrunt wrote:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf

When 4% of your population believes that shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form, you know you're in trouble.

Even if those 4% are w*kers, there are some bigger percentages for equally ridiculous propositions.


Only four percent? I'll go tell the council of elder dragons that now is the time to initiate the final phase.



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04 Apr 2013, 12:02 am

visagrunt wrote:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf

When 4% of your population believes that shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form, you know you're in trouble.

Even if those 4% are w*kers, there are some bigger percentages for equally ridiculous propositions.


Only four percent? I'll go tall the council of scaled elders that now is the time to initiate the final phase.



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04 Apr 2013, 12:05 am

People believe in unlikely conspiracy theories because the real conspiracies aren't as fun to think about. Also, not trusting the official story makes people feel they are special and smart, even when they're actually gullible to believe something that makes even less sense.



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04 Apr 2013, 2:30 am

naturalplastic wrote:
eric76 wrote:
One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.


In the nineteenth century the theory that the American Indians are all really "the Lost Tribe of Israel" was popular ( I believe that it may still be woven into Mormonism to this day), but I've never heard of this idea!

All of us?
If our forefathers came on the Mayflower, or through Ellis Island, or on slave ships from Africa, or snuck across the Rio Grande yesterday, or were of the first nations,are ALL of the lost tribe of Israel?

Boggles the mind how that could be possible!


This crap is tied to the White Christian Identity movement, which is the Yankee version of the British Israel movement. This (cough) theology argues the lost tribes of Israel had ended up in western and northern Europe, where they had forgotten who they were and became either the Anglo-Saxons, all Germanic peoples, Celts, or all these groups - depending on whose ranting you're listening to. Coming from Europe, the theory is is that these true Israelites founded America, the true Promised Land. Very Antisemitic, they claim the modern day Jews are imposters.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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04 Apr 2013, 2:35 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
eric76 wrote:
One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.


In the nineteenth century the theory that the American Indians are all really "the Lost Tribe of Israel" was popular ( I believe that it may still be woven into Mormonism to this day), but I've never heard of this idea!

All of us?
If our forefathers came on the Mayflower, or through Ellis Island, or on slave ships from Africa, or snuck across the Rio Grande yesterday, or were of the first nations,are ALL of the lost tribe of Israel?

Boggles the mind how that could be possible!


This crap is tied to the White Christian Identity movement, which is the Yankee version of the British Israel movement. This (cough) theology argues the lost tribes of Israel had ended up in western and northern Europe, where they had forgotten who they were and became either the Anglo-Saxons, all Germanic peoples, Celts, or all these groups - depending on whose ranting you're listening to. Coming from Europe, the theory is is that these true Israelites founded America, the true Promised Land. Very Antisemitic, they claim the modern day Jews are imposters.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That's not the case for the two I was talking about. Neither of the two have ever expressed any interest in or sympathy with any form of any movement of that sort.



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04 Apr 2013, 2:49 am

eric76 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
eric76 wrote:
One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.


In the nineteenth century the theory that the American Indians are all really "the Lost Tribe of Israel" was popular ( I believe that it may still be woven into Mormonism to this day), but I've never heard of this idea!

All of us?
If our forefathers came on the Mayflower, or through Ellis Island, or on slave ships from Africa, or snuck across the Rio Grande yesterday, or were of the first nations,are ALL of the lost tribe of Israel?

Boggles the mind how that could be possible!


This crap is tied to the White Christian Identity movement, which is the Yankee version of the British Israel movement. This (cough) theology argues the lost tribes of Israel had ended up in western and northern Europe, where they had forgotten who they were and became either the Anglo-Saxons, all Germanic peoples, Celts, or all these groups - depending on whose ranting you're listening to. Coming from Europe, the theory is is that these true Israelites founded America, the true Promised Land. Very Antisemitic, they claim the modern day Jews are imposters.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That's not the case for the two I was talking about. Neither of the two have ever expressed any interest in or sympathy with any form of any movement of that sort.


Really? Then I've never heard of the groups you're familiar with.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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04 Apr 2013, 2:57 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
eric76 wrote:
One of the most ridiculous things I've come across is two people who truly believes that the United States constitutes the lost tribe of Israel.

They apparently believe us all to be Jewish regardless of whether or not we actually have any Jewish ancestors. Living in the United States makes you Jewish.


In the nineteenth century the theory that the American Indians are all really "the Lost Tribe of Israel" was popular ( I believe that it may still be woven into Mormonism to this day), but I've never heard of this idea!

All of us?
If our forefathers came on the Mayflower, or through Ellis Island, or on slave ships from Africa, or snuck across the Rio Grande yesterday, or were of the first nations,are ALL of the lost tribe of Israel?

Boggles the mind how that could be possible!


This crap is tied to the White Christian Identity movement, which is the Yankee version of the British Israel movement. This (cough) theology argues the lost tribes of Israel had ended up in western and northern Europe, where they had forgotten who they were and became either the Anglo-Saxons, all Germanic peoples, Celts, or all these groups - depending on whose ranting you're listening to. Coming from Europe, the theory is is that these true Israelites founded America, the true Promised Land. Very Antisemitic, they claim the modern day Jews are imposters.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That's not the case for the two I was talking about. Neither of the two have ever expressed any interest in or sympathy with any form of any movement of that sort.


Really? Then I've never heard of the groups you're familiar with.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I didn't say anything about them being members of a group. For that matter, neither of the two are much into joining anything.